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Old 08-11-2013, 08:10 AM
 
Location: Sacramento, CA
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Ok...

But you honestly believe Sacramento can beat out places like San Antonio? Orlando? Tampa? St. Louis? Indianapolis? Charlotte? San Diego? Atlanta? the Twin Cities? Even Detroit?
Ya ofc they can, just like any one of these cities can as well. If you saw the article I posted, you'll see it's not just me saying it.
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Old 08-11-2013, 11:35 PM
 
Location: Miami,FL
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Fort Lauderdale is still in the same sports market as Miami.
I don't care if they are. I detest broward county and will not associate them with miami.
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Old 08-12-2013, 12:12 AM
 
Location: Denver
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I don't care if they are. I detest broward county and will not associate them with miami.
But they are associated with Miami. Even the Federal Government says so.
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Old 08-12-2013, 01:03 PM
 
Location: Miami,FL
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But they are associated with Miami. Even the Federal Government says so.
I know that but I personally don't consider them part of Miami.
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Old 08-12-2013, 05:58 PM
 
Location: Denver
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They aren't mart of Miami, they are a part of the metro. Sounds childish.
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Old 08-12-2013, 07:57 PM
 
Location: East Lake Worth
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I know that but I personally don't consider them part of Miami.
Grow up fella...
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Old 08-15-2013, 10:31 PM
 
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MLS is adding too many teams. There's no way a division 1 league should have over 20 teams. These guys at MLS just don't understand the sport of soccer. They are NFL guys. It wouldn't surprise me if they went to 24 teams and then divided the league into divisions like the NFL with wild cards etc. It's complete crap.

And then they why wonder why the majority American soccer fans don't want anything to do with MLS. This is frickin why.
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Old 08-16-2013, 07:48 AM
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Location: Fort Worth
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MLS is adding too many teams. There's no way a division 1 league should have over 20 teams. These guys at MLS just don't understand the sport of soccer. They are NFL guys. It wouldn't surprise me if they went to 24 teams and then divided the league into divisions like the NFL with wild cards etc. It's complete crap.

And then they why wonder why the majority American soccer fans don't want anything to do with MLS. This is frickin why.
.... you're in America. There are SEVERAL cities/metro areas (much more than 30) and tv markets here in the U.S. and Canada as well. I'm pretty sure the MLS can get away with having more than 20 teams.

I really don't see why this is a problem.
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Old 08-16-2013, 05:42 PM
 
Location: yeah
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MLS is adding too many teams. There's no way a division 1 league should have over 20 teams. These guys at MLS just don't understand the sport of soccer. They are NFL guys. It wouldn't surprise me if they went to 24 teams and then divided the league into divisions like the NFL with wild cards etc. It's complete crap.

And then they why wonder why the majority American soccer fans don't want anything to do with MLS. This is frickin why.
League size has little to do with the sport and tons to do with the governing body. Soccer fans are not FIFA fans. Going beyond 20 teams will not be offensive to the game itself like those late-'90s shootouts were. It's simply a scheduling issue with no impact on how the game is played.

The Championship in England is literally 150% the size of Portugal's top division, 24 teams versus 16. Which one of those setups is flawed? Which footballing culture is less legitimate in your esteemed eyes?
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Old 08-16-2013, 10:27 PM
 
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League size has little to do with the sport and tons to do with the governing body. Soccer fans are not FIFA fans. Going beyond 20 teams will not be offensive to the game itself like those late-'90s shootouts were. It's simply a scheduling issue with no impact on how the game is played.

The Championship in England is literally 150% the size of Portugal's top division, 24 teams versus 16. Which one of those setups is flawed? Which footballing culture is less legitimate in your esteemed eyes?
The Championship is not D1. There's a reason why the Premier League is 20 teams. The bottom 4 are really bad. Imagine a PL with 24 teams. You would have 8 really poor sides in your top division. Now look at MLS, a league that is probably somewhere between the Championship and League 1 (if you go by wages) and you're going to tell me that there's enough talent for MLS to have 24 teams?

The fact that the US is a really big country is irrelevant when it comes to deciding on the size of our D1 league. I hear people say "we are a big country , we can have 30 teams in MLS!" That is moronic. Anyone saying that doesn't know anything about this sport.

It's a moot point now isn't it? Garber wants 24. And Garber doesn't know anything about soccer either. Heck, when he took the job as Commish of MLS he admitted not knowing much about soccer. MLS plucked him out of the NFL. If he knew anything about soccer we wouldn't have a league that decides we need to have an unbalanced schedule to encourage rivalries (lol..idiots!!!) and that having 12 out of 18 teams make the playoffs to decide the regular season champion is a good idea. There are stupid stupid people running MLS. They think MLS = NFL.
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