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Old 11-18-2013, 10:02 PM
 
Location: Buenos Aires, Argentina
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Old 11-19-2013, 01:40 PM
 
Location: Howard County, MD
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um you kinda forgot the foundation needed to get into uefa clubs. which is actually having kids play pick up games in the streets with their freinds and then joining amature leages before getting scouted by the local real madrid scouts(I don't know about your area but real madrid is a scouting machine down here they even have their own youth league down here where the train prospects) then they play in the local madrid league before they are thought to be good enough and get shipped to europe.
That helps too. Didn't know that about Real, that's interesting and I think something similar in DC/Maryland could turn out rather lucrative for other clubs.

Another thing I thought of, and one that I sort of see taking root: phasing out the old "soccer" culture, with co-ed youth leagues, carpooling around suburban parks, and participation trophies, and embracing the European approach in which the game goes hand-in-hand with working class machismo.
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Old 11-19-2013, 02:48 PM
 
Location: IL
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Another thing I thought of, and one that I sort of see taking root: phasing out the old "soccer" culture, with co-ed youth leagues, carpooling around suburban parks, and participation trophies, and embracing the European approach in which the game goes hand-in-hand with working class machismo.
This will be really hard. Most working class around here focuses on basketball and football, and sometimes baseball. Soccer is a distant 4th. Immigrant working class, though, that is a different story.
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Old 11-19-2013, 02:54 PM
 
Location: SE UK
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We are amazing at Womens soccer, havent you heard of Elizabeth Lambert?


Elizabeth Lambert's Dirty Play and hair pull Mars BYU vs. New Mexico Womens Soccer - YouTube
No never heard of her - that's because women's football is a joke
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Old 11-19-2013, 04:37 PM
 
Location: Miami,FL
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This will be really hard. Most working class around here focuses on basketball and football, and sometimes baseball. Soccer is a distant 4th. Immigrant working class, though, that is a different story.
not just immigrants, non-caribbean hispanics still hold futbol close to heart here. it's a classic case of the immigrant culture becoming the dominant culture. but it wasn't the cubans that brought that culture here it's the growing number of central and south americans.
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Old 11-19-2013, 06:07 PM
 
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Not enough attention and money in the soccer business,american football,baseball,basket ball get most of the money,therefore soccer will never become big in America.
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Old 11-19-2013, 06:12 PM
 
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Not enough attention and money in the soccer business,american football,baseball,basket ball get most of the money,therefore soccer will never become big in America.
it's already becoming big. The World Cup gets better TV ratings than the World Series. The English Premier League is getting great ratings each weekend and they are on as early as 430am on the west coast.
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Old 11-19-2013, 07:32 PM
 
Location: Tejas
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Not enough attention and money in the soccer business,american football,baseball,basket ball get most of the money,therefore soccer will never become big in America.
Yeah, OCCS is building an $80million stadium and it costs millions more just to buy into the league. Yeah there is no money in it youre right ...
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Old 11-20-2013, 08:19 PM
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Location: Fort Worth
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it's already becoming big. The World Cup gets better TV ratings than the World Series. The English Premier League is getting great ratings each weekend and they are on as early as 430am on the west coast.
Look, the World Cup can (and I believe HAS) gotten better TV ratings than the World Series, which hasn't exactly grown lately.

TV ratings aren't everything, dude. We've had this convo before. More people can watch World Cup over the World Series, but line 10 born and raised Americans up and ask each of them which sport is more popular in this country. Ask them which sport they would rather watch, and I guarantee it will be baseball over football.

Soccer has made some major gains in this country, but it's still not as big as the MLB, or NBA, or NFL, and not nearly as big EPL or association football leagues that are NOT in America.
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Old 11-20-2013, 09:50 PM
 
Location: Miami,FL
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Look, the World Cup can (and I believe HAS) gotten better TV ratings than the World Series, which hasn't exactly grown lately.

TV ratings aren't everything, dude. We've had this convo before. More people can watch World Cup over the World Series, but line 10 born and raised Americans up and ask each of them which sport is more popular in this country. Ask them which sport they would rather watch, and I guarantee it will be baseball over football.

Soccer has made some major gains in this country, but it's still not as big as the MLB, or NBA, or NFL, and not nearly as big EPL or association football leagues that are NOT in America.
I actually think in miami we have already made the switch. when brasil played honduras in a friendly at sunlife stadium on saturday. The attendance broke the state's record for a soccer match with 71,124 people watched brazil annihilate honduras 5-0. The next day the dolphins hosted the chargers in an entertaining game that they won and only drew a crowd of 60,256. But It's not only the attendance that suggests that a switch has occurred it's also the TV ratings. Miami has consistently topped the ratings in the us tv market.Miami among top TV ratings for US-Mexico! | Total Futbol
Miami tops Champions League TV ratings | Total Futbol. it's also not just the hard facts that show a switch it's also informal things like the number of jerseys you see worn on college campuses or the number of pick up games you see being played and in all those metrics soccer is #1 here in S.FL with only Miami heat jerseys being comparable and basketball pickup games.
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