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Old 07-12-2014, 08:22 AM
 
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When word came out that the WNBA was getting better TV ratings than MLS most of us who have been critical of MLS were not surprised.
Who cares about TV ratings (which I question, BTW).

Average attendances, in-person:
WNBA 7,450
MLS 18,800

I don't see a problem. I have a paid subscription to watch MLS matches on the internet and enjoy league play very much. League play allows draws (1 point each) which eliminates extra time and penalty kicks, thus, getting teams to try hard to get a winning goal.

Soccer has taken hold strongly in the USA and Canada and the MLS has been a part of bringing that about. MLS may never be the best or richest league in the world, but it can become one of the top 10, maybe even top 5 behind England, Spain, Italy, and Germany.

The structure of the league (single entity) has also been one of the keys to its success. Too many leagues have an oligarchy of clubs perpetually at the top, who can afford to buy the best players from the poorer clubs. MLS is way more exciting than, say, Spain (which I watched for several seasons). A squad can be near the bottom one season in MLS and then move to the top after a few key acquisitions. Compare that with Real "Black Hole" Madrid buying the best players from lesser Spanish sides and then putting those players on the bench or in the stands.
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Old 07-12-2014, 01:13 PM
 
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I think the issue is actually focusing on cities with the big 4 already in Boston, Philly etc. MLS is an afterthought (especially because the Bruins, Flyers, Celtics, Red Sox, Phillies are 80+ yrs old)
Look at Seattle or Portland or KC, they only have 1/2 teams in the big 4 and their MLS teams are more successful than Boston a larger, richer market.
So instead of Focusing on Boston, New York, Philadelphia, Chicago and other big markets focus on cities that MLS would take center stage (Omaha, Hartford/Springfield, El Paso, Orlando)
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Old 07-12-2014, 05:12 PM
 
Location: Tejas
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MLS Live is on sale for $32, well worth it.
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Old 07-12-2014, 07:53 PM
 
Location: Fairfax County, VA
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How about changing the names of the following current teams?

New York Red Bulls
Sporting Kansas City
Toronto FC
Chivas USA
FC Dallas
Real Salt Lake

And the upcoming teams:

New York City FC
Orlando City SC

Maybe Americanized team nicknames and non-corporate nicknames could attract more fans?
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Old 07-12-2014, 10:05 PM
 
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MLS Live is on sale for $32, well worth it.
Thanks for this! Subscribing now!
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Old 07-12-2014, 10:13 PM
 
Location: Fairfax, Va
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Originally Posted by Joke Insurance View Post
How about changing the names of the following current teams?

New York Red Bulls
Sporting Kansas City
Toronto FC
Chivas USA
FC Dallas
Real Salt Lake

And the upcoming teams:

New York City FC
Orlando City SC

Maybe Americanized team nicknames and non-corporate nicknames could attract more fans?
okay:

Sporting Kansas City
Toronto FC
FC Dallas
NYC FC
OC SC

not okay:

NY RB (corporate name) but again we have Red Bull Salzburg
Chivas USA (Team name will be changed soon)
Real Salt lake (should be something like Salt lake city)

It is not about naming it is about how the league system is working. They want to implement the MLB and NFL league system in the soccer system. Even American soccer fans would like to have a league like a European, American, Asian or African league.
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Old 07-12-2014, 10:56 PM
 
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Exactly. Why would American soccer fans care to name their team the Jaguars or the Lions or whatever? This isn't high school football.

The MLS top brass is trying to market the sport like they do baseball and football, but that's actually hurting the league. Soccer fans want something like what the euro leagues, especially the English Premier league.
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Old 07-13-2014, 07:00 AM
 
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Exactly. Why would American soccer fans care to name their team the Jaguars or the Lions or whatever? This isn't high school football.
Good one!

Yeah, I agree. How many Jaguars can be seen in the vicinity of Jacksonville, FL? If they want a nickname truly to represent the community, it should be the Jacksonville Carjackers.

Around the world, football squads are usually sponsored by sport clubs. Those sport clubs take the name of the city or a district within a city (e.g., the Feyenoord club of Rotterdam; the Boca district of Buenos Aires). You don't see too many using animal names (traditional within USA) or the silliness of the current use of abstract nouns (e.g., the Wild). In the former USSR block of nations, clubs were sponsored by different government ministries, so there are a lot of 'Spartak' (military), 'Dynamo' (electrical utility), and 'Lokomotiv' (railroad) names. The Dukla Praha (Prague) club is named after the 'Dukla pass' in the mountains between the Czech Republic and Poland, where a famous military victory was won in World War II.

I really don't care what a club/team names themselves. Using "Real" for the Salt Lake City franchise was kind of silly, IMHO, but I can still enjoy their matches all the same. Eventually, one will get used to it. In Spain, the Madrid club is not the only one using "Real" in their name (e.g., Real Sociedad, Real Murcia). I would rather see US clubs get more creative and use names that represent their locale, either for outstanding geography (e.g., the Wasatch club of Salt Lake City = Wasatch Salt Lake) or some historical event, like the Philadelphia Union represents.
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Old 07-13-2014, 10:24 AM
 
Location: Seattle
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many Bulgarian teams are named after mountains, rivers, national heroes. Botev is a national hero
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Old 07-13-2014, 08:02 PM
 
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many Bulgarian teams are named after mountains, rivers, national heroes. Botev is a national hero
I followed Levski Sofia one season, through the internet (streamed matches and news) because they had two former players from the Dutch club that I support. They are named after Vasil Levski, correct?
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