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Old 07-07-2014, 02:44 PM
 
Location: IL
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If Brazil win this world cup, they will most likely be the worst side to ever win it!
That's a pretty bold statement. This Brazil team is definitely not their best, and their style is not what I come to expect from them. They are more physical and less beautiful. They are missing a great striker, but are much better at the defensive end than normal. No Ronaldo, Rivaldo, Ronaldinho, Pele, Kaka, Zico, Garrincha, etc. But, they control play and are well above average at nearly every position (I exclude striker and for Julio Cesar, while having a good WC is not well above average). They will definitely miss Neymar, as much of their play goes through him. Also, he was frequently double teamed when he had the ball, opening play for others. Set pieces are REALLY important for this Brazil team.

Every team in history has weaknesses and whomever wins this WC will be the same.

A couple of examples of teams that weren't the best off the top of my head...I thought Italy in 2006 was pretty bad, definitely not the best team in the WC...I thought they got lucky with their draw and how their opponents fell into the bracket. Uruguay in 1950 was a shock, outscoring their opponents 7-5 in final group play versus Brazil 14-4...but, on that one day they beat the better team.
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Old 07-07-2014, 03:23 PM
 
Location: The Netherlands
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However if you want use stats to justify how much they deserve to win, then show me one game that Brazil played that they did not dominate the main stats (total shots, shots on goal and possession). That PK against Croatia may have been a bad call, but Brazil would still beat them 2x1. Funny, everybody is still talking about that PK in Fred against Brazil in the first match, but no other team is having so much unfavorable unfair calls than Brazil ever since that game. Neymar is a sad example of it, and the referee did not even call a foul! Unbelievable. Brazil dominated the game against Chile too, had a PK not called and was unlucky to go to penalties in the end. Just look at the official stats and you will see.
I wasn't implying that Brazil didn't deserve to win, nor Argentina or Germany for that matter. I was merely using Infinitekid's definition of "squeeking by" (= winning by one goal or penalties) to show how the other teams don't have a better record than us. Looking at the stats, it's nonsense to say The Netherlands struggled against CR even though the game ended in 0-0. It would be equally foolish to suggest that The Netherlands utterly dominated Spain in that first match, even though we won 5-1. Brazil, Argentina and Germany were the better team in almost any game they played regardless of what the scoreline suggests.
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Old 07-07-2014, 04:39 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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man its hard deciding who to root for when Linda Van Gaal and Sophie the Argie are so sure of themselves/teams.

ugh...and on the other hand i would like Brazil and Germany to progress..
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Old 07-07-2014, 05:13 PM
 
Location: Eindhoven, Netherlands
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Winner of Wednesday Game = Winner of World Cup
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Old 07-07-2014, 05:14 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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*looks at schedule.....looks at Location...
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Old 07-07-2014, 05:21 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Germany vs Holland and Germany taking it all.

No Thiago Silva no Neymar, what is Brazil doing against Germany?

As for arg vs holland, its going to be close, but i think messi wont be able to do much by himself, now with no di maria, it could get ugly.
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Old 07-07-2014, 06:18 PM
 
Location: Sudcaroland
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Germany all the way for me.
I hope it will be against the Netherlands, because I can't stand Argentina (the team, not the country)
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Old 07-07-2014, 06:34 PM
 
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Brazil dominated the game against Chile too, had a PK not called and was unlucky to go to penalties in the end. Just look at the official stats and you will see.
Say what? That was probably the most intense game of the WC. Chile dominated and had Brazil on edge. They were exposed by the Chileans. Many people, actually most, would say that chile was by far the better team
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Old 07-07-2014, 06:44 PM
 
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For some reason I don't sense the urgency in Argentina. They're not playing as passionate as say Uruguay or Chile did. Its weird to see then so reserved. Are they playing cautious?
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Old 07-07-2014, 09:34 PM
 
Location: Somewhere
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For some reason I don't sense the urgency in Argentina. They're not playing as passionate as say Uruguay or Chile did. Its weird to see then so reserved. Are they playing cautious?
Well Uruguay was not that passionate until Luis Suarez entered the game. And then he got True blood passionate. Sadly Forlán is already too old for this competition. I was kind of sad when I saw Forlán in the Colombian match replacing Suarez because I have always been a fan of his. Had Suarez played against Colombia, maybe they would have had a chance.

Chile I don't agree. I didn't like their game. I think they got lucky.
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