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Old 05-24-2016, 06:54 AM
 
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I don't see England going that far in the competition.
Why not? If there's any year in which they are poised to do it, it's this one. Most of the old stalwarts (bar Rooney) are gone, they have a tremendous young core... I have them as my sleeper to take the trophy; a semifinal is probably more realistic, but I wouldn't rule bigger things out.
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Old 05-24-2016, 07:33 AM
 
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England are like the Liverpool of the international tournaments. They always say this is the one, it never is. They always seem to crumble.
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Old 05-24-2016, 09:40 AM
 
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England are like the Liverpool of the international tournaments. They always say this is the one, it never is. They always seem to crumble.
And yet Liverpool has won the Champion's league in the last decade (well, almost in the last decade, 2005).
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Old 05-24-2016, 12:28 PM
 
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Im a Pool fan, the most relevant thing we want is the league. Well win it next year. There is always huge hype around England to win and they do always crumble, thats a fact that cannot be ignored.
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Old 05-25-2016, 08:44 AM
 
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Im a Pool fan, the most relevant thing we want is the league. Well win it next year.
No, you won't. Not next year, anyways. Need to build a solid foundation which Klopp will do, but it will take time and I believe you will give him the time. I'd say top-4 is a realistic goal next year, top-5 would be acceptable and anything less would be spinning the wheels.
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Old 05-25-2016, 10:56 AM
 
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No, you won't. Not next year, anyways. Need to build a solid foundation which Klopp will do, but it will take time and I believe you will give him the time. I'd say top-4 is a realistic goal next year, top-5 would be acceptable and anything less would be spinning the wheels.
You missed the point of my comment ...
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Old 05-25-2016, 11:54 AM
 
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Why not? If there's any year in which they are poised to do it, it's this one. Most of the old stalwarts (bar Rooney) are gone, they have a tremendous young core... I have them as my sleeper to take the trophy; a semifinal is probably more realistic, but I wouldn't rule bigger things out.
Why not? Because England being a country very much under the spot light, any player making it to the national team becomes almost automatically highly regarded. Remember the likes of Michael Owen (recipient of the Ballon d'or), David Beckham (at Real with Zidane and Figo). These guys were good players no questions asked, but one thing is for sure had they been Bulgarian, or Norwegian they wouldn't have had half as much jazz as the Englishmen ever had. Every competition, England is expected to make it all the way to the end, however when was the last time England went passed the quarterfinals?
England has an amazing domestic league housing many of the best players of world but that is probably part of what is killing its national team.
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Old 05-26-2016, 06:45 AM
 
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You missed the point of my comment ...
No, I didn't.
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Old 05-26-2016, 06:49 AM
 
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Why not? Because England being a country very much under the spot light, any player making it to the national team becomes almost automatically highly regarded. Remember the likes of Michael Owen (recipient of the Ballon d'or), David Beckham (at Real with Zidane and Figo). These guys were good players no questions asked, but one thing is for sure had they been Bulgarian, or Norwegian they wouldn't have had half as much jazz as the Englishmen ever had. Every competition, England is expected to make it all the way to the end, however when was the last time England went passed the quarterfinals?
England has an amazing domestic league housing many of the best players of world but that is probably part of what is killing its national team.
So, to me that's exactly what they are lacking this year. They actually don't have an Owen or Beckham this year. Their best players are Vardy, Alli and Kane, who are actually antithetical to those superstars of yesteryear.
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Old 05-27-2016, 01:02 PM
 
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What worries me with England's manager, Roy Hodgson, is that he sticks with players who have not performed well when it matters.

At least Rooney will not play up front and is doing a reasonable job in midfield. With Daniel Sturridge injured he will have to look elsewhere.

I hope that the relative newcomers like Vardy, Kane and Drinkwater get a chance to show what they can do.

England's defence, Hart included these days, ain't great.

Hang on- the Australia match is on as I type.......
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