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Old 03-13-2017, 07:00 AM
 
Location: Tejas
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I agree. There are too many teams, and MLS is trying to expand too fast. They need to give it time to grow in popularity.
Ive been saying that for years! The player pool in America isnt that good, and they keep dividing it by adding more and more teams. The answer is to import some pure garbage players. MLS is a pure money grab at this stage, they just want someone to pay a few hundred million to joint the league over improving the quality.
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Old 03-14-2017, 02:21 PM
 
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As cities start pushing back on athletic clubs (see San Diego) you are going to see a consolidation of fields/stadiums. There is no way to make a stadium financially viable without a higher utilization rate.

I grew up watching american football and baseball played in the same stadium. I never thought there was an issue with the experience. I have never been to a purely soccer stadium but cant imagine that it would make that big of a difference.
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Old 03-16-2017, 03:29 PM
 
Location: Seminole County, FL
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As cities start pushing back on athletic clubs (see San Diego) you are going to see a consolidation of fields/stadiums. There is no way to make a stadium financially viable without a higher utilization rate.

I grew up watching american football and baseball played in the same stadium. I never thought there was an issue with the experience. I have never been to a purely soccer stadium but cant imagine that it would make that big of a difference.
I agree... prior to our new stadium coming to over here, OCSC played at the Citrus Bowl, which is largely a college football stadium. There were never any issues. You couldn't particularly tell that it wasn't built exclusively for soccer. While our new stadium is amazing, I think it was utterly unnecessary.
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Old 03-19-2017, 07:20 PM
 
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Ive been saying that for years! The player pool in America isnt that good, and they keep dividing it by adding more and more teams. The answer is to import some pure garbage players. MLS is a pure money grab at this stage, they just want someone to pay a few hundred million to joint the league over improving the quality.
Yes a business is a money grab, what do you think ManU does? They develop soccer players not to help the game but to help them win.
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Old 03-20-2017, 07:34 AM
 
Location: Tejas
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How does developing players to win not help them ? Developing players to help them win, is helping the game.
MLS doesnt do that, youth development is terrible in the US and like I said, all MLS wants is for a team to pay a few hundred million to join a league and the quality suffers.
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Old 05-02-2017, 11:54 AM
 
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How does developing players to win not help them ? Developing players to help them win, is helping the game.
MLS doesnt do that, youth development is terrible in the US and like I said, all MLS wants is for a team to pay a few hundred million to join a league and the quality suffers.
Youth soccer development has always been terrible in the US. It's dominated by underqualified coaches and small youth clubs who prioritize grabbing money from suburban kids over searching for and developing talent. That's not MLS fault.

I like what MLS is doing with academies. Many now have cheap or even free academies that search and develop best talent in the region. Ideally, every decent sized city should have that. Some MLS clubs have invested / are investing 10s of millions into youth setup. That wouldn't happen in those cities without MLS clubs, and it doesn't make much financial sense for them right now, it's a long term strategy.

Youth soccer development is one of the best arguments I can see for MLS expansion.

To the guy on the previous page who said that some MLS clubs don't have good fanbases -- true, and especially the old clubs. You should've seen MLS 10 years ago, or especially 15 years ago. Miserable crowds, bad oversized stadiums. The last 10 years of expansion have been good -- new clubs have nice stadiums, much improved crowds and atmosphere. NYCFC has been the only iffy expansion club.
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Old 05-05-2017, 01:30 PM
 
Location: Trieste
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There's also a side thing, in the last years UEFA and FIFA have started to pretend all the stadium to be roofed and with no atletic traks if they wanna get eligibile to host major soccer events, like finals or World/continental championships.
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Old 05-11-2017, 11:21 AM
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Location: Fort Worth
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I agree. There are too many teams, and MLS is trying to expand too fast. They need to give it time to grow in popularity.
For what it's worth, many people say the same about the current Big Four leagues. Even the NFL...

So if anything, the MLS is just "one of the guys" now.

Expansion won't stop until around 28 and I doubt it'll effect the popularity. If anything, it helps.
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Old 05-11-2017, 11:30 AM
 
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For what it's worth, many people say the same about the current Big Four leagues. Even the NFL...

So if anything, the MLS is just "one of the guys" now.

Expansion won't stop until around 28 and I doubt it'll effect the popularity. If anything, it helps.
I'll be stunned if it stops before 32 tbh, might go past that. So many strong suitors right now, it will be hard to say no to them.
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Old 05-12-2017, 09:02 AM
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Location: Fort Worth
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I'll be stunned if it stops before 32 tbh, might go past that. So many strong suitors right now, it will be hard to say no to them.
28 is ideal. 32 is possible... but I doubt they'll go past that until the other "big boy leagues" go past that.
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