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Old 05-15-2019, 07:47 AM
 
Location: SE UK
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Yet like I pointed out there are NO fences at English football stadiums, NO police with dogs dressed in riot gear, NO water cannon and NO hooliganism, can the same be said of all the other Euro countries? What are we to make of the fact that its only when the English team or English clubs play on the continent that problems occur? I have a friend that was attacked by Russian hooligans (more than one), then attacked by so called Marseille hooligans (more than one) and then actually batoned by the French police themselves (more than one) when he last went abroad to follow the English team & each time he was on his OWN! The Russians still think its 1984 & the French are never ones to turn down the opportunity to batter an Englishman if the chance arises, my friend is a mild mannered 'middle aged' man he is not a 'hooligan'. Never again is what he said and as far as I know he hasn't ventured out in to Europe with either the national team or domestic team since.
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Old 05-15-2019, 08:36 AM
 
Location: Seattle
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Yet like I pointed out there are NO fences at English football stadiums, NO police with dogs dressed in riot gear, NO water cannon and NO hooliganism, can the same be said of all the other Euro countries? What are we to make of the fact that its only when the English team or English clubs play on the continent that problems occur?

The Brits visit other countries, trash the place, then go home and behave civilly? I guess they're blowing off some steam in a place where they don't have to clean up afterward? Or they're bigots.
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Old 05-15-2019, 10:07 AM
 
Location: Great Britain
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If you are convicted of a football related offence you are barred from travelling to overseas competitions, have your passport made invalid and have to sign on at a police station.

Britain succesfully clamped down on football holliganism and it's not generally a major problem in the UK and hasn;t been for decades.

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The Brits visit other countries, trash the place, then go home and behave civilly? I guess they're blowing off some steam in a place where they don't have to clean up afterward? Or they're bigots.
The British haven't samashed any where up and are generally well behaved.

Furthermore if you do smash anything up as you put it, you tend to be severally beaten by riot police and subject to foreign courts and prison.

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The Public Order Act 1986 permitted courts to ban supporters from grounds, while the Football Spectators Act 1989 provided for banning convicted hooligans from attending international matches. The Football (Disorder) Act 1999 changed this from a discretionary power of the courts to a duty to make orders. The Football Disorder Act 2000 abolished the distinction between domestic and international bans.

The Football Offences Act 1991 created specific offences of throwing missiles onto pitches, participating in indecent or racist chanting and going onto the pitch without lawful authority.

In Scotland, a new law was introduced in March 2012 to deal with the growing problem of threatening behaviour particularly in relation to inciting religious hatred. The Offensive Behaviour at Football and Threatening Communications (Scotland) Act 2012 creates two new offences: Offensive Behaviour related to football and Threatening Communications.

The former covers expressing or inciting religious, racial or other forms of hatred and and threatening behaviour at or on the way to a regulated football match. The latter relates to threats of serious violence and threats intended to stir up religious hatred sent via the internet or other communications.

Football Hooliganism - politics.co.uk

Football Spectators Act 1989 - Wikipedia

Football (Disorder) Act 2000 - Wikipedia
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Old 05-15-2019, 08:20 PM
 
Location: Seattle
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Uh-huh.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/10/footb...ntl/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/01/footb...ntl/index.html

Well at least the fans aren't behind cages.
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Old 05-16-2019, 02:14 AM
 
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That's not 'hooliganism' that's called an 'isolated incident' there is a big difference, like I previously said arrest rates in football stadiums are LOWER than they are in towns of similar populations to the football attendances, your post is a good example of the point I make, there was a big problem with hooliganism in the 1980's in the UK and ever since the English WILL get attacked every time they travel abroad, the English WILL then get the blame for any incidents, wash rinse and repeat, tell me why is there no fences at English stadiums, no police with riot gear and dogs and no water canons yet all of these things are still in attendance when the English play abroad? Why is it when I go to Stamford Bridge for a Premier League match I mingle freely in the streets, with opposing fans too both before and after the game yet if I follow Chelsea abroad I get a police escort before the game and then 'kept behind' after the match for my own safety?
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Old 05-17-2019, 04:10 PM
 
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That's just two idiots, the idiot who attacked Grealish now has a criminal record, served time in prison and is banned from attending football matches, he will also have his passport revoked when international football competitions are taking place.

All for being a idiot, who had probably had too much to drunk before the game, and in court he had to witness his own mother crying.

Jack Grealish: Fan jailed for attacking Aston Villa footballer during derby match - Sky News

The other idiot was arrested charged with assault and disorderm and has been found guilty, the Sheriffs Court in Scotland are awaiting reports before he is brought back to Court next month to face sentrencing.

Millions of fans attend football matches every season in the UK and there are very few arrests ir violent incidents.

14,503,954 fans attended Premier League games last season and there were 374 arrests in total, in the EFL Championship league total attendance was 11,314,143 with 591 arrests.

Overall there were around 33 million fans who attended profesional football games in the Premier League, Championship Leage, Division1 and Division 2, a record number, whilst at the same time arrests have fallen from 3,972 arrests in 2000/-1 season to 1,542 lst season, which is more than half.

Football-related arrests lowest in a decade & Birmingham City top arrest list - BBC Sport (November 2018)

Premier League 2018/2019 Attendance - worldfootball.net

English Football League: Attendances reach 60-year high of almost 18.4m - BBC Sport

2017–18 EFL Championship - Wikipedia

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