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Old 07-16-2010, 01:28 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MO
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Originally Posted by expect View Post
lol aww is that what ur resorting to? I guess its "homoerotic" to watch men in tiny shorts running around then too isn't it you insecure middle aged virgin

My most used example being the 5'8 nate Robinson voids your pathetic red herring, clown

You find your own post every entertaining, don't you?

 
Old 07-16-2010, 01:29 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MO
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Soccer Players are great athletes and they certainly have a lot of skill and ability.

The problem is that none of the above makes the sport any more interesting for me to watch. My soccer friends tell me that the game is not all about scoring - its about the fight for ball possession. I guess I can understand this, but I can't seem to find any of it very interesting.

There just seems to be too many people fighting for the ball and too little scoring or breakaway action.

Its a world-wide phenomenon - I get it.
The players are awesome athletes - I get it.
It is not easy to play - I get it.
I don't fully understand the game - maybe, but it still puts me to sleep.

That's fair.

There isnt a sport in this world that is for everyone. It's good that you have given it a fair shake and recognize the skill and athleticism of it.

The only recommendation I have for you if you havent done so already is to go see a game live. I think that helps everyone have a new appreciation for any sport.
 
Old 07-16-2010, 01:30 PM
 
Location: Ca2Mo2Ga2Va!
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We are so not into soccer in our family...I've never liked the term "soccer mom" either....my kids have never even played soccer, well my oldest son did when that was the only sport available for his age....now all my kids play, since they were 5 is baseball and football...soccer, yawn lol
 
Old 07-16-2010, 02:36 PM
 
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We are so not into soccer in our family...I've never liked the term "soccer mom" either....my kids have never even played soccer, well my oldest son did when that was the only sport available for his age....now all my kids play, since they were 5 is baseball and football...soccer, yawn lol
It is funny...I played both baseball and soccer as a kid, and a good portion of the kids I played soccer and stuck with it with are still playing, or are still in great shape. Yet the baseball and football kids, who had to give the sport up YEARS ago (you cant really play competitive baseball or football after high school- unless you are in the top .05 percent of the best) are fat, out of shape, and not very fit. Not all...but most. I would definitely recommend sports like soccer and hockey for kids because they are sports you can play cometitively for the rest of your life.
 
Old 07-16-2010, 05:46 PM
 
Location: yeah
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We are so not into soccer in our family...I've never liked the term "soccer mom" either....my kids have never even played soccer, well my oldest son did when that was the only sport available for his age....now all my kids play, since they were 5 is baseball and football...soccer, yawn lol
baseball, yawn lol
 
Old 07-17-2010, 05:11 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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This thread was full of outspoken soccer fans, posting links of idiots in the stands lighting flares and singing stupid songs as their basis for why soccer is "cool" lol yet when the real reasons as to why American fans don't like watching soccer started coming in.. suddenly it got REAL quiet.
I agree, sometimes us soccer fans focus too much on what's happening off the field when promoting the sport to others. The sport itself is what is so amazing (it actually means something when a team scores - it's very difficult to do, non-stop action for 45+ minutes at a time, the fluid nature of the sport, the history, etc.). At least it is to me. All the other stuff is awesome though - like what the atmosphere at places like Cameron Indoor bring to basketball, etc.

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soccer has a 5'7 150 pound "man" as its BEST player in the world. what other sport could messi play? he'd get broken in half in football or hockey, no athleticism to play basketball, too short for tennis (unless he played against women, and even then he'd be shorter than most players LOLOL), not fast enough for track, not strong enough for body building
One of the things I like most about this sport is that normal people play it. You have to be agile, have speed (unless you're a goalkeeper, then you need other skills) and you don't have to be extremely huge (football) or tall (basketball) in order to be the best. It's a sport that average people can play size-wise, what baseball used to be.

Anyway, I love the sport, can't get enough of it, but understand that others are bored by it. Just like I am bored by baseball and other sports. That's one great thing about America - we have so many choices for spectator sports that you can spend your time enjoying the ones you do like and ignore the ones you don't care for.
 
Old 07-19-2010, 05:12 PM
 
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LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO @ a clip from 1986... does this mean in the 24 years since there isn't something to show the 'athleticism' in soccer? hahahahahah!

and that is hardly a show of athleticism lol... it does show impressive 'dribbling' skills or whatever you call the control of the ball. very much like golfers have great control of their swings and their ability to place golf balls very close to the hole is just as impressive. is it a show of athleticism? nope.

this, yes:


YouTube - Vince Carter dunk

this, yes:


YouTube - Best Juke Ever

this, yes:


YouTube - BARRY SANDERS OWNS

^especially considering he's being chased by mutant linemen and linebackers/corners 7-8 inches taller and much heavier than he is, all looking to take his head off, as opposed to the guys basically chasing around maradona like they're playing tag.

and lastly:



^ nothing, NOTHING in soccer comes close to this in terms of athleticism.


Could your dear Nate Robinson do this?

YouTube - Lionel Messi Dribbles and Skills

We don't admire footballers for being super freakish tall mutants who can jump high. We admire them because of their skill. Nate robinson doesnt have the skill messi has. He's just athletic by nature and he used alot of time in the gym instead of playing the actual sport! You admire super athletic people who are tall and spend lots of time in the gym. We admire "normal" people with super skill!!

All american sports have some kind of freakish monster playing it (Shaq, many nfl players). This is also why i think soccer(god i hate that word) has a tough time catching on in the states.
 
Old 07-19-2010, 07:53 PM
 
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1. can you read? you basically regurgitated what I posted and tried to act like you're doing something to disprove my claims. this is what i posted:

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and that is hardly a show of athleticism lol... it does show impressive 'dribbling' skills or whatever you call the control of the ball. very much like golfers have great control of their swings and their ability to place golf balls very close to the hole is just as impressive. is it a show of athleticism? nope.
this is what you posted:
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We admire them because of their skill. Nate robinson doesnt have the skill messi has.
2. Additionally, saying that Nate Robinson doesnt have the "skills" that Messi has is stupid and pointless. Messi doesn't have the "skills" that Danica Patrick has with a race car, how exactly can that be used as an argument against Messi? LOL. they're different sports. what we can compare is: athleticism.
My argument was, that Nate Robinson, by far NOT the best player in the NBA, is many times over a better A-T-H-L-E-T-E than Messi, which you AGREED with here:

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He's just athletic by nature
and here
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All american sports have some kind of freakish monster playing it
Which was my argument all along, thank you for agreeing with me.



ps- thanks also for basically agreeing with me also that soccer, like GOLF, is more about SKILL than it is about ATHLETICISM.
Tiger Woods, Phil Mickelson etc, like Messi, arent freak of nature natural athletes. They are very skilled and they are really good and impressive at what they do.
Highly athletic? No

Thanks again.
 
Old 07-19-2010, 10:25 PM
 
Location: yeah
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Golfers don't run or face opponents head-on. They mimic the same motion over and over. There's no reflex, speed or agility required. The same cannot be said of a soccer player. Athleticism is inherent to what they do. Arguing that just makes you look stupid, but I don't think you'll ever realize it anyway.
 
Old 07-20-2010, 08:00 AM
 
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1. can you read? you basically regurgitated what I posted and tried to act like you're doing something to disprove my claims. this is what i posted:



this is what you posted:


2. Additionally, saying that Nate Robinson doesnt have the "skills" that Messi has is stupid and pointless. Messi doesn't have the "skills" that Danica Patrick has with a race car, how exactly can that be used as an argument against Messi? LOL. they're different sports. what we can compare is: athleticism.
My argument was, that Nate Robinson, by far NOT the best player in the NBA, is many times over a better A-T-H-L-E-T-E than Messi, which you AGREED with here:


and here


Which was my argument all along, thank you for agreeing with me.



ps- thanks also for basically agreeing with me also that soccer, like GOLF, is more about SKILL than it is about ATHLETICISM.
Tiger Woods, Phil Mickelson etc, like Messi, arent freak of nature natural athletes. They are very skilled and they are really good and impressive at what they do.
Highly athletic? No

Thanks again.
hmm look at the topic title. i simply chose to reply to you. i answered why soccer is cool to us and not to you.

And soccer players are atheltic and SKILLFULL. Not one but both. Have you ever seen a slow soccer player??? Drogba is good cos of his strenght! You really think a skillfull slow fat guy could play professional??

See american sports only require athelticism and little skill, while soccer requires both. Huge freaks of nature who are simply good cos of their weight/height.

isnt this guy athletic? he could easily make it into the NFL.
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