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Old 11-08-2010, 06:46 AM
 
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Are you suggesting that DeMint is not an embarrassment? I'm embarrassed everytime he makes a public statement. IMO, anyone interested in the future of our country should be insulted by DeMint's presence. On the contrary, I think Greene's presence would have been a refreshing change from what currently makes up most of DC. Neither party would have known how to deal with him.
If you thought that Green's presence would have been so great representing South Carolina, then why didn't you support him? Did you help his campaign at all? Make phone calls, go door to door, make a financial contribution?

Nope.

You rather come here and bash DeMint, who is actually trying to make changes and TAKE ON the establishment of the GOP.

DeMint is not an embarrassment to this state. What is are the faux democrats who did not support their candidate in the primary, then didn't support the party nominated candidate, now come here to whine about DeMint.
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Old 11-08-2010, 06:51 AM
 
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I'm curious: do you agree with DeMint that gays and unwed mothers should not be teachers?
There is no perfect politician. I'll go out on a limb here and say that Akhenaton06 probably does not agree with every decision President Obama makes, but probably supports him overall and most likely will vote for him again.
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Old 11-08-2010, 09:07 AM
 
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There is no perfect politician. I'll go out on a limb here and say that Akhenaton06 probably does not agree with every decision President Obama makes, but probably supports him overall and most likely will vote for him again.
You mean Obama's not perfect?!? They told us that he was in '08. Those who disagreed were labeled "racist."
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Old 11-08-2010, 11:38 AM
 
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You mean Obama's not perfect?!? They told us that he was in '08. Those who disagreed were labeled "racist."
Straw man. Let's try to be a LITTLE classier than the Politics forum.

And as far as Lindsay Graham goes, SC has two senators. DeMint is one of the most conservative in the Senate, I think it's safe to say, and Graham's lifetime "Conservative" rating from the ACU is almost 90/100. That puts him in line with Mitch McConnell or Orrin Hatch, and ahead of the majority of the Republicans in the senate (as of 2009).

So we've got one guy who's pretty much always conservative, and one guy who is almost always conservative. Meanwhile, the citizens of our state are far more varied in their likes and interests. A senator can't appropriately represent his constituents AND be a total left/right ideologue. What has Graham actually equivocated on? Climate change? Or just the willingness to talk to the other side at all?
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Old 11-08-2010, 12:10 PM
 
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Straw man. Let's try to be a LITTLE classier than the Politics forum.
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And as far as Lindsay Graham goes, SC has two senators. DeMint is one of the most conservative in the Senate, I think it's safe to say, and Graham's lifetime "Conservative" rating from the ACU is almost 90/100. That puts him in line with Mitch McConnell or Orrin Hatch, and ahead of the majority of the Republicans in the senate (as of 2009).

So we've got one guy who's pretty much always conservative, and one guy who is almost always conservative. Meanwhile, the citizens of our state are far more varied in their likes and interests. A senator can't appropriately represent his constituents AND be a total left/right ideologue. What has Graham actually equivocated on? Climate change? Or just the willingness to talk to the other side at all?
Unfortunately, that's how far down the rabbit hole we've fallen. The far right is all about ideology over policy and any sign of "working with the enemy" is seen as ideological impurity. I never thought I'd see a day where someone could call Graham a RINO or a liberal and sincerely mean it.

But if religious authoritarianism and Club for Growth backed economic stances are what the voters want, then thats what they deserve.
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Old 11-08-2010, 12:14 PM
 
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One phrase- Grahamnesty. Graham ticked off alot of his base during the immigration reform debate. ANd while he went along with every Bush war/interrogation bill in the end; he publicly expressed his doubts about several high profile ones. In my experience Graham is more popular with moderate/conservative dems than Republicans in SC.
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Old 11-08-2010, 12:20 PM
 
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Graham is going to be replaced for much the same reason that Spratt got put out to pasture. He has stopped representing the people of South Carolina and seems to be more interested in his national image.

Huh? I've never noted Spratt caring about or even having a national reputation. Sanford actually did that more than Graham IMHO. Spratt was what he was- a 90s style Southern Dem. He held on an extra decade with constituent service but he really has not swayed with the wind. His district has moved away from him some and the Rs put up their best candidate during what was already and R wave. He's not like Alex Sanders or John Edwards dems who fashioned and refashioned themselves as more/less lieral/conservative in diferent crowds.
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Old 11-08-2010, 02:11 PM
 
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If you thought that Green's presence would have been so great representing South Carolina, then why didn't you support him? Did you help his campaign at all? Make phone calls, go door to door, make a financial contribution?

Nope.

You rather come here and bash DeMint, who is actually trying to make changes and TAKE ON the establishment of the GOP.

DeMint is not an embarrassment to this state. What is are the faux democrats who did not support their candidate in the primary, then didn't support the party nominated candidate, now come here to whine about DeMint.
Umm,

Green was a creation of the Demint campaign.

The only reason he was on the ballot was because S.C. uses iVotronic software, a software which is so easily cracked- flipped- that two MORE states this past summer decertified it for use in their elections.

And Demint's people flipped the Democratic Primary.

And yes, I can provide the facts to substantiate this, if you'd like.
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Old 11-08-2010, 03:00 PM
 
Location: Lexington, SC
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LOL. Doesn't it get hot under that tin foil hat?
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Old 11-08-2010, 03:03 PM
 
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No Geechie- Green was not a plant. He was a result of Dem voters only having one race they care about and pulling votes out of their arse down the rest of the ballott. The dem candidate for the Charleston-Myrtle Beach house seat was similarly unqualified & unseen. If we are going to be honest both benefitted from having minority sounding names in a primary that has a huge minority tilt.

And for what its worth Vic Rawl would have proven an absolute disaster for other reasons. On the whole the Dems only had a half dozen decent candidates spread across the US house/Sen and state office elections. Its astounding Sheheen kept it that close with no help anywhere on the ticket.
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