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Old 10-27-2012, 01:06 PM
 
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The evening nightly news has been showing preliminary maps of the U.S. shaded in either dark blue, light blue, dark red or light red as to where states are leaning. Colorado, Virginia, Ohio, and New Hampshire are the only gray states which are split down the middle for Romney and Obama. My question is, if South Carolina is struggling, along with a high African American population percentage-wise, why is it dark red? Why don't the poor, and middle income people recognize Romney as another republican who's primary objective is to maintain low taxes for the rich? I live in MA and I will tell you that Romney is a pathological liar who will say ANYTHING to get elected.
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Old 10-27-2012, 01:13 PM
 
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SC has always been a conservative state. Just put an "R" behind the candidate's name and he/she is a shoo-in.
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Old 10-27-2012, 02:27 PM
 
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SC has always been a conservative state. Just put an "R" behind the candidate's name and he/she is a shoo-in.
Well, that depends on how long "always" is...

Prior to the Civil Rights movement in the mid-60's, SC was strongly Democrat, with a long string of Democratic governors, and the state's electoral votes consistently going to the Democratic candidate. Our legendary Strom Thurmond (you know, the one who served several terms after he was clinically dead) was initially a Democrat until switching parties in opposition to the Civil Rights Act championed by the Democratic party. Obviously, his sentiments were not influenced by the fact that he had fathered a child out of wedlock with an African-American woman many years before.

Although there are districts in SC that have a Democratic majority, they are systematically being eliminated through re-districting actions by the Republican-controlled state legislature.

SC voters have a long history of ignoring the facts. When considering politics, it's important to keep in mind that SC is solidly embedded in the Bible belt, and the pulpit controls many, many votes. For many South Carolinians, abortion is not the most important issue, it's the only issue. As my dear mother-in-law always says, "Romniac (McCain, Bush, etc) is the Christian candidate".
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Old 10-27-2012, 03:30 PM
 
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Oh yeah, SC's ecomony, along with the rest of the country, has been kicking arse under the Phony-In-Chief Obama.

And what is the unemployment rate for blacks right now in SC? In the US?

Things wll get going again once Obambi is bye-bye and there's a REAL leader in the White House.
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Old 10-27-2012, 03:59 PM
 
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Well, that depends on how long "always" is...

Prior to the Civil Rights movement in the mid-60's, SC was strongly Democrat, with a long string of Democratic governors, and the state's electoral votes consistently going to the Democratic candidate. Our legendary Strom Thurmond (you know, the one who served several terms after he was clinically dead) was initially a Democrat until switching parties in opposition to the Civil Rights Act championed by the Democratic party. Obviously, his sentiments were not influenced by the fact that he had fathered a child out of wedlock with an African-American woman many years before.

Although there are districts in SC that have a Democratic majority, they are systematically being eliminated through re-districting actions by the Republican-controlled state legislature.

SC voters have a long history of ignoring the facts. When considering politics, it's important to keep in mind that SC is solidly embedded in the Bible belt, and the pulpit controls many, many votes. For many South Carolinians, abortion is not the most important issue, it's the only issue. As my dear mother-in-law always says, "Romniac (McCain, Bush, etc) is the Christian candidate".
I didn't say SC has always been Republican; I said it's always been conservative. There's a difference.

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Oh yeah, SC's ecomony, along with the rest of the country, has been kicking arse under the Phony-In-Chief Obama.

And what is the unemployment rate for blacks right now in SC? In the US?

Things wll get going again once Obambi is bye-bye and there's a REAL leader in the White House.
Obama has very little to do with SC's underperforming economy; it's been this way for several years now and is largely due to the state's overreliance on textiles, manufacturing, and tourism. Unlike its neighbor to the North that began investing in other industries early on, SC didn't do so and has suffered for it. It doesn't matter who's in the White House; until SC gets serious about making education a real priority and makes the necessary changes that reflect this which will result in more and higher-paying jobs in more knowledge-based industries, it will continue to get left in the dust.
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Old 10-27-2012, 06:02 PM
 
Location: Lexington, SC
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Well, that depends on how long "always" is...

Prior to the Civil Rights movement in the mid-60's, SC was strongly Democrat, with a long string of Democratic governors, and the state's electoral votes consistently going to the Democratic candidate. Our legendary Strom Thurmond (you know, the one who served several terms after he was clinically dead) was initially a Democrat until switching parties in opposition to the Civil Rights Act championed by the Democratic party. Obviously, his sentiments were not influenced by the fact that he had fathered a child out of wedlock with an African-American woman many years before.

Although there are districts in SC that have a Democratic majority, they are systematically being eliminated through re-districting actions by the Republican-controlled state legislature.

SC voters have a long history of ignoring the facts. When considering politics, it's important to keep in mind that SC is solidly embedded in the Bible belt, and the pulpit controls many, many votes. For many South Carolinians, abortion is not the most important issue, it's the only issue. As my dear mother-in-law always says, "Romniac (McCain, Bush, etc) is the Christian candidate".

Pawley's pretty much hit it on the head.

The Democrats in SC deserted the Democratic party over racial, not ecomonic issues. While many white South Carolinians talk a good story about not being racists, when push comes to shove many (the uneducated and/or lower income whites especially) still are. They like to throw religion, abortion, unions, states rights, socialism (many of them cannot even spell it), etc., up as smoke screens but under that facade it is still racism for many of them here.

The majority of Republicans are not (I repeat are not) racists, but the majority of the racists in this country are in and/or will vote for the Republican party for that reason alone.

Anyone that does not think race plays a major role in this election (for or against), are BSing themselves.
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Old 10-27-2012, 08:31 PM
 
Location: Richmond,VA
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Pawley's pretty much hit it on the head.

The Democrats in SC deserted the Democratic party over racial, not ecomonic issues. While many white South Carolinians talk a good story about not being racists, when push comes to shove many (the uneducated and/or lower income whites especially) still are. They like to throw religion, abortion, unions, states rights, socialism (many of them cannot even spell it), etc., up as smoke screens but under that facade it is still racism for many of them here.

The majority of Republicans are not (I repeat are not) racists, but the majority of the racists in this country are in and/or will vote for the Republican party for that reason alone.

Anyone that does not think race plays a major role in this election (for or against), are BSing themselves.
Yeah, sure my friend, that's why 99% of blacks will vote for Obambi. Race has nothing to do the it, right?
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Old 10-27-2012, 10:27 PM
 
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Most people who talk politics don't have a clue what's really going on. Their choice in politics usually comes from how they were raised versus actual thought.
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Old 10-28-2012, 06:10 AM
 
Location: Pure Michigan!
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My question is, if South Carolina is struggling, along with a high African American population percentage-wise, why is it dark red?
Well, it looks like you answered your own question. Probably because, as in most areas of this country, the past four years have been brutal to the majority of middle income South Carolinians and they see no hope in keeping the status quo. High unemployment affects people of all colors, so to re-elect a president who doesn't have a grasp on how to run the country wouldn't make sense, regardless of whether he is white, half-black (as is the case), or black.

I have seen and read many news accounts of how black pastors across the country are urging their congregations to vote against Obama because of his stand on abortion and gay marriage. Aren't many African-Americans in SC religious people who attend church regularly? That probably plays a large role as well.
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Old 10-28-2012, 06:29 AM
 
Location: Bishkek
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Well, it looks like you answered your own question. Probably because, as in most areas of this country, the past four years have been brutal to the majority of middle income South Carolinians and they see no hope in keeping the status quo. High unemployment affects people of all colors, so to re-elect a president who doesn't have a grasp on how to run the country wouldn't make sense, regardless of whether he is white, half-black (as is the case), or black.

I have seen and read many news accounts of how black pastors across the country are urging their congregations to vote against Obama because of his stand on abortion and gay marriage. Aren't many African-Americans in SC religious people who attend church regularly? That probably plays a large role as well.
Nail on the head!
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