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If someone asked me what's the largest MSA in SC, I would assume they meant the largest MSA the principle city(ies) of which are in SC, and my answer would be Greenville-Anderson, because both principle cities of that MSA are in SC.
No, because in my earlier analogy Columbia is Houston, except that even Houston doesn't have the distinction of its name being the only one in the MSA title.
No, because in my earlier analogy Columbia is Houston, except that even Houston doesn't have the distinction of its name being the only one in the MSA title.
OK.. so both Anderson and Mauldin have more people commuting out of them and into Greenville than Spartanburg does.. which would lead me to believe that Spartanburg is more of its own central city than say a bedroom community ? Interesting....
On a related note... I read in another thread how the City of Mt. Pleasant now has a higher population than Greenville. It was noted that Greenville's city limits are smaller than most of its peer cities. Just curious on why that is.... Is it because the City just doesnt aggressively pursue annexation or people, in Greenville County just dont want to live in the city limits because of tax purposes and what not.. I say that to say that most cities in SC of any relavent size seem to aggressively pursue annexation.. From Columbia, Charleston, and even places like Cayce, Irmo, West Columbia, Blythewood, and Forest Acres in terms of cities in the Midlands..... I used to work for a small municipality in SC and the County actively discouraged its residents from annexing into the City because they believed that it would reduced their political power.. though in SC the Cities are IN the Counties and you vote for City and County reps in any City in SC.. The County politicos however found that most people went to their City reps inside the City Limits and thus tried to stifle any annextion because of that.. I was wondering if that may be the issue in Greenville????
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I would say it's partially some of both. Some people don't want to be in the City because of perceived higher taxes. But, to a degree, I think the City also enjoys having a smaller land area within which to spread its wealth around. It allows Greenville to pay attention to more details, and to focus its energy more intensely upon projects that it deems a priority.
I would say it's partially some of both. Some people don't want to be in the City because of perceived higher taxes. But, to a degree, I think the City also enjoys having a smaller land area within which to spread its wealth around. It allows Greenville to pay attention to more details, and to focus its energy more intensely upon projects that it deems a priority.
Interesting...on that note.. would you say that the Mayor and City Council have been in their positions for a long period of time? The inverse of what I referenced about the County stifling annexation for political reasons happens in some towns/cities in SC. They want to stay small because they dont want to annex certain areas that surround them either because it could threaten the incumbent(either real or percieved because of demographic or party affiliation) or because of the low tax value.. I will give you a Columbia tax value example.
The area along I-277 and the much debated 'Jim Clyburn Pedestrian Overpass' has for years been outside of the City though they have made overtures to be annexed. It is completely surrounded by the City of Columbia. The area contains mainly low income housing The City did a Cost Benefit Analysis and determined that it would cost the taxpayers of Columbia more in providing services to this area than they would recoup via taxes.. This area was turned down when Coble was Mayor. It came up again when Benjamin first became Mayor..I believe they petitioned again..though I am not sure what happened. In the City's defense.. The two development were rental communities and thus the property managers were obviously looking for relief from water/sewer rates and additional Police protection at the city's expense. However; low income areas like Arthurtown down off of Shop Road near Williams Brice, sections of Olympia and a few others have been clamoring for better services and thus want to annex into the City with mixed results.
I could give a couple of demographic/political affiliation examples such as the Ward where the neighborhood would enter the City is of one political party and taking it in would tilt the favor towards another and thus the Council Rep finds ways to keep it out. This is especially true if someone lives there that is rumored or feared to run for the office once the area comes in...
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I used to work for a small municipality in SC and the County actively discouraged its residents from annexing into the City because they believed that it would reduced their political power.. though in SC the Cities are IN the Counties and you vote for City and County reps in any City in SC.. The County politicos however found that most people went to their City reps inside the City Limits and thus tried to stifle any annextion because of that.. I was wondering if that may be the issue in Greenville????
