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Training is not dropped, just the 8 hour rule because it makes sense to tailor the training to the owner's experience with guns. They all have to take the test still.
Also, let's not forget that a drivers license is considered a privilege. Gun ownership is a right so important it was included in the Bill of Rights second only to the amendment protecting speech, the press, religion, and petition...
From what I've read and my understanding, open carry in the states that DO allow it isn't especially as prevalent as you might think. Overall, I don't oppose this materializing. All I know is, I that I plan on taking my concealed weapons class very soon and I will carry from time to time- concealed.
I think if you open carry, you're doing it for the attention; albeit positive or negative. I'm going to carry my pistol just in case the you know what hits the fan and there is no need to parade around with it holstered on my hip- although some people might see that as a deterrent to would be offenders of committing a crime or even a public shooting that has been prevalent lately. It'll be interesting to see how this goes forward.
From what I've read and my understanding, open carry in the states that DO allow it isn't especially as prevalent as you might think. Overall, I don't oppose this materializing. All I know is, I that I plan on taking my concealed weapons class very soon and I will carry from time to time- concealed.
I think if you open carry, you're doing it for the attention; albeit positive or negative. I'm going to carry my pistol just in case the you know what hits the fan and there is no need to parade around with it holstered on my hip- although some people might see that as a deterrent to would be offenders of committing a crime or even a public shooting that has been prevalent lately. It'll be interesting to see how this goes forward.
yeah i too plan on taking the class in the next couple months, regardless if i then walk with something or not. I myself dont think I mind open carry, being from a different state that while hunting is sacred (WI) it wasnt until somewhat recently that conceal carry was an option there and i've never been in a location where people do walk around with a gun on their hip. Well except for when i'm at the PSA range lol. But just not sure how i'd feel on the street.
But someone with a visible sidearm doesnt mean i'm suddenly 100% comfortable in that surrounding; I dont know that person, what their experience or training consisted of, or even what their frame of mind is. And we all know it's impossible to legislate frame of mind.
They are still doing background checks and ex-felons are not allowed to own them. There is also still training just not the 8 hour requirement for everybody.
That's what the NEW bill wants to eliminate. So, if you buy a pistol from your neighbor, you don't have a background check, or permit, or any training, and she wants you to be able to strap it on your belt and walk downtown proudly displaying your firearm open to the public. With no training. Or background check. Brilliant.
Lee Bright, Republican, Spartanburg, wants it to go even further. HE says even convicted felons should be able to carry. Seriously, look it up.
That's what the NEW bill wants to eliminate. So, if you buy a pistol from your neighbor, you don't have a background check, or permit, or any training, and she wants you to be able to strap it on your belt and walk downtown proudly displaying your firearm open to the public. With no training. Or background check. Brilliant.
Lee Bright, Republican, Spartanburg, wants it to go even further. HE says even convicted felons should be able to carry. Seriously, look it up.
The GOP is going full bizarre whacko mode on us.
Yeah thankfully they aren't in power at the federal level.
There is still training, it just isn't a rigid 8 hour requirement for everybody. Ex military guys shouldn't have to do 8 hours of training.
WHY?
They don't even shoot guns in the Navy anymore in boot camp. And if a recruit goes to a desk job, he may go 20 years without shooting a fun.
Should an Air Force secretary or cook or dentist...who retires at 38, but hasn't shot a gun since boot camp, need a refresher?
8 hours is a JOKE anyway. Should be 80 hours. Guns aren't a joke, they aren't a video game. They're deadly. Even guys in military combat jobs or police SWAT teams, who train a LOT with shooting, still usually do average at best in their first real live shooting incident.
Bubba who got a 90 minute CWP 'lesson' down the road in someone's backyard does NOT need to be firing rounds inside an Applebees to "stand his ground". Innocent people will get hit. And like the Tampa movie theater shooting, the bad guy probably wont even be found to have been a real threat.
Lots of Bubbas with itchy trigger fingers. They should go enlist if they wanna trade rounds that bad.
But someone with a visible sidearm doesnt mean i'm suddenly 100% comfortable in that surrounding; I dont know that person, what their experience or training consisted of, or even what their frame of mind is. And we all know it's impossible to legislate frame of mind.
Or the psycho standing in line next to him, who couldn't buy a gun of his own to shoot up the mall because he couldn't pass the background check, but now sees a big shiny weapon on the guy's belt that he could steal and start shooting people.
Sometimes I think SC Republicans daydream that they live in Tombstone, AZ in the 1800's.
They don't even shoot guns in the Navy anymore in boot camp. And if a recruit goes to a desk job, he may go 20 years without shooting a fun.
Should an Air Force secretary or cook or dentist...who retires at 38, but hasn't shot a gun since boot camp, need a refresher?
8 hours is a JOKE anyway. Should be 80 hours. Guns aren't a joke, they aren't a video game. They're deadly. Even guys in military combat jobs or police SWAT teams, who train a LOT with shooting, still usually do average at best in their first real live shooting incident.
Bubba who got a 90 minute CWP 'lesson' down the road in someone's backyard does NOT need to be firing rounds inside an Applebees to "stand his ground". Innocent people will get hit. And like the Tampa movie theater shooting, the bad guy probably wont even be found to have been a real threat.
Lots of Bubbas with itchy trigger fingers. They should go enlist if they wanna trade rounds that bad.
I be more worried about you having a gun than your theoritical "Bubba". You are too emotional for no reason.
Guns aren't that complicated. 80 hours of training? Geez. You act like it is rocket science but if you figured it out , pretty much anybody can.
You are wrong about the permit going away. You still need to have a concealed weapon permit to carry one into a bar and most bars aren't going to allow them anyway so this is much ado about nothing.
Research has proven that areas where more of the law abiding citizens own guns there is less crime.
I be more worried about you having a gun than your theoritical "Bubba". You are too emotional for no reason.
Guns aren't that complicated. 80 hours of training? Geez.
You are wrong about the permit going away. You still need to have a concealed weapon permit to carry one into a bar and most bars aren't going to allow them anyway so this is much ado about nothing.
Research has proven that areas where more of the law abiding citizens own guns there is less crime.
Hey idiot, read the original post. The no permit law is one being proposed.....as in future tense....by Spartanburg Republican Lee Bright, and one that Nikki Haley verbally supported.
Yes, at least 80 hours of training. If they are so simple, why to the military and police spend so much time training with them?
Going in the backyard with Uncle Bubba and plinking some Pepsi cans is NOT "training".
That research is mostly spurious.
Most places that strict gun laws passed......ALREADY had high crime. Hence the push for the law.
Areas with little gun crime....never had a reason to pass strict gun laws.
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