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Students are not counted in the numbers if they aren't permanent residents.
The census bureau counts students living in dorms as residents of the city where their dorms are. It's about where they are laying their heads to sleep in April of the census year.
If three cities are basically the same size metro-wise not including the rural parts of the counties in their MSA's, but one city's boundaries take up 25 square miles and the other two cities' boundaries take up 75 square miles, because cities generally have denser population in their cores, the city with the smaller number of square miles is bound to have more people per square mile. That's just the way it works.
i don't remember remember saying it has been 10 years since I was last in Charleston. I was down there a few months ago. It has been 10 years since I've lived in Charleston.
i never said that nobody lived north of Calhoun but I think there are a lot of people who would not want to live north of Calhoun, especially north of the crosstown road, similar to how some people would not want to live in certain areas of downtown Greenville. i was responding to another person's comment about demographics in downtown Greenville.
gentrification north of Calhoun isn't evidence the downtown is more dense than Columbia and Greenville.
You might not, but people are renting houses for over $4k a month in that part of town.
The buildings replacing the dilapidated warehouses and parking lots are all massive hotel and apartment buildings.
you aren't explaining how it is more dense without more vertical housing. the people have to live somewhere.
Ive already explained this to you multiple times, you pack in. LA packs 4 million people in 469 sq miles - with a dominant lower-density apartment and single family home set up. That is possible because LA is packed like sardines. Same with DC...same with Brooklyn, same with downtown Charleston. Whether you feel that way or not, it is true.
You call it an optical illusion and say people are counting whatever...but there 36,000 residents. Counting them and doing basic math, you get the numbers that you get. You are literally arguing with logic for the sake of it.
And again, most towers in Columbia and Greenville are commercial. Windstream, BOA, BB&T, TD Bank, Capital Center, Liberty Plce, Gervais Tower, Wells Fargo...people do not live there. They are commercial buildings taking up space. You act like they are Miami condos.
There's vertical housing in all three cities downtown.
I understand that.
My point is, i see the assertion that downtown Charleston has far greater density than Columbia and Greenville but I don't think Charleston has more vertical housing downtown than the other two. I feel like the house sizes and lots are about the same size in the urban areas of all three, comparing poor areas to poor and affluent to affluent.
Having lived in all 3 cities, I never had the impression Charleston had a greater population density. They feel about the same size and density to me. anyway, it doesn't matter one way or another.
i would think if there was much greater population density in downtown Charleston than the other two, it would have more grocery stores chains. As far as I know there is only one south of Crosstown, the Harris Teeter, and I think a Food Lion north of Crosstown. I assume all the affluent people in downtown Charleston are going to that Harris Teeter.
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I'm talking about a bigger area for each city than the immediate downtown. Charleston's city limits go all the way out to the historic plantation district and include undeveloped areas elsewhere. Columbia has Fort Jackson in it boundaries. That kind of uninhabited space dilutes the number of people per square mile, which is the definition of population density. I don't think the city limits of Greenville have nearly the same degree of uninhabited space.
I'm talking about a bigger area for each city than the immediate downtown. Charleston's city limits go all the way out to the historic plantation district and include undeveloped areas elsewhere. Columbia has Fort Jackson in it boundaries. That kind of uninhabited space dilutes the number of people per square mile, which is the definition of population density. I don't think the city limits of Greenville have nearly the same degree of uninhabited space.
Indeed but going off this basis Summerville has a high population density than Greenville.
Indeed but going off this basis Summerville has a high population density than Greenville.
It may indeed. I haven't looked at those figures. It depends on how wide the city boundaries are and on how many people live within the city boundaries.
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