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Old 10-19-2017, 07:57 AM
 
Location: Charleston, SC
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Toyota and Mazda are looking for $1 billion in incentives. Is the cost to high for a SC city to get it?

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Old 10-19-2017, 08:50 AM
 
Location: South Carolina
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No, the cost is doable in South Carolina.
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Old 10-19-2017, 02:31 PM
 
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Depends that's roughly the same size as the Volvo plant being built in Charleston.... what was the value on incentives for that plant?
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Old 10-20-2017, 07:16 AM
 
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Depends that's roughly the same size as the Volvo plant being built in Charleston.... what was the value on incentives for that plant?
Over $200M: Volvo invests $520M to build 2nd vehicle in South Carolina
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Old 10-24-2017, 05:57 AM
 
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I really don't see spending 5 times that amount for the same number of jobs as intelligent in that case.
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Old 10-24-2017, 06:45 AM
 
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I really don't see spending 5 times that amount for the same number of jobs as intelligent in that case.
I would argue that a Toyota/Mazda plant is much more likely to see expansion down the road than a Volvo plant. That said, the required level of government assistance for this plant does sound pretty excessive. I really wish SC had gotten the Hyundai and/or Kia plants. Both of those nameplates are seeing a significant growth in market share as their level of quality has increased.
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Old 10-24-2017, 07:20 AM
 
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I really don't see spending 5 times that amount for the same number of jobs as intelligent in that case.
Agreed. Let the other states compete for this one I say.
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Old 10-24-2017, 06:47 PM
 
Location: Columbia SC
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I would argue that a Toyota/Mazda plant is much more likely to see expansion down the road than a Volvo plant. That said, the required level of government assistance for this plant does sound pretty excessive. I really wish SC had gotten the Hyundai and/or Kia plants. Both of those nameplates are seeing a significant growth in market share as their level of quality has increased.
Volvo is owned by Geely Automotive Group of China. Geely has wanted to enter the North American market. I predict they will build a Geely plant on the additional land beside the Volvo plant. I say look for Chinese cars made in the US being sold in the US within the next 8 years
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Old 10-24-2017, 09:54 PM
 
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I would argue that a Toyota/Mazda plant is much more likely to see expansion down the road than a Volvo plant. That said, the required level of government assistance for this plant does sound pretty excessive. I really wish SC had gotten the Hyundai and/or Kia plants. Both of those nameplates are seeing a significant growth in market share as their level of quality has increased.
The volvo plant has already expanded up to the 4k they said they'd eventually get to, a few years ahead of schedule in fact.
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Old 10-25-2017, 08:20 AM
 
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Volvo is owned by Geely Automotive Group of China. Geely has wanted to enter the North American market. I predict they will build a Geely plant on the additional land beside the Volvo plant. I say look for Chinese cars made in the US being sold in the US within the next 8 years
I hadn't considered that aspect. There is no doubt that China will aggressively enter our market at some point. The question in my mind is whether they do that with their own nameplates or continue to use nameplates (i.e. Volvo) that already have brand recognition in the market. I guess they will eventually do both. Volvo certainly gives them a quality image that the average customer probably would not associate with a Chinese auto brand.
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