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Old 10-04-2009, 06:59 PM
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What city is the Atlanta MSA is to Atlanta as Anderson or Spartanbug is to Greenville in size and importance?
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What city is the Atlanta MSA is to Atlanta as Anderson or Spartanbug is to Greenville in size and importance?
Gwinnett to Atlanta is like Greenville to Anderson or Spartanburg.

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Old 10-05-2009, 06:27 AM
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Na. It's too small next to Atlanta. Spartanburg and Anderson have too much importance compared to Greenville to make that comparison.
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Weren't they one urbanized area back in 2000?
No, they were all one MSA.

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Actually, development along I-85 is all it will take if you think about it.
Not to become one urbanized area. Urbanized areas are defined by continuous population density over a specific area. For instance, here's the SC map that shows such. Take note of Greenville and Spartanburg. There's still a noticeable line of demarcation separating the two, although they are close together:



Now here's the Texas map. Take note of Dallas-Fort Worth, which together constitute one urbanized area, at the top right. They pretty much bleed into each other at all points:

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Gwinnett to Atlanta is like Greenville to Anderson or Spartanburg.
Gwinnett is a county, not a city. There are no secondary cities of significant size in the Atlanta metro like in the Metroplex (Dallas/Fort Worth) or the Tampa Bay area (Tampa/St. Petersburg). You've got Atlanta at 538K and the next largest city in the metro is Roswell at 87K.
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Not to become one urbanized area. Urbanized areas are defined by continuous population density over a specific area. For instance, here's the SC map that shows such. Take note of Greenville and Spartanburg. There's still a noticeable line of demarcation separating the two, although they are close together:

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Now here's the Texas map. Take note of Dallas-Fort Worth, which together constitute one urbanized area, at the top right. They pretty much bleed into each other at all points:
I agree, even though a decade has passed since this estimated data was last officially gathered. It will likely take decades before the comparison will be relevant. At present, the comparison is merely speculative based on recent growth patterns in the Upstate.
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A census tract is added to a city's urbanized area if it has 500 people/sq mile. IMO this isn't very urban.

For a true urban area you need to be looking at the 2500 min people/sq mile data.
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Oh, I thought we were talking about MSA not just urbanized area. Oops. I was referring to the MSA and that Greenville-Spartanburg-Anderson should be one MSA again in 2010. That census map of South Carolina was made almost 10 years ago. Who knows what it looks like now. Greer has grown by leaps and bounds since then.
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No, they were all one MSA.



Not to become one urbanized area. Urbanized areas are defined by continuous population density over a specific area. For instance, here's the SC map that shows such. Take note of Greenville and Spartanburg. There's still a noticeable line of demarcation separating the two, although they are close together:



Now here's the Texas map. Take note of Dallas-Fort Worth, which together constitute one urbanized area, at the top right. They pretty much bleed into each other at all points:

So will Florence and Darlington eventually become an MSA? If they are not one already....
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So will Florence and Darlington eventually become an MSA? If they are not one already....
They already are. The Florence MSA consists of Florence and Darlington counties.
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