Representative Joe Wilson Shouts "You Lie" (Columbia: high school, to move)

[lisake]

Originally Posted by justNancy

This is a very good article by Mark McKinnon, a Republican, and a former Bush & McCain strategist.


Send Joe Wilson Home - Page 1 - The Daily Beast

Thanks for the link. Enjoyed the article and especially this line from McKinnon: "I’m a Republican, but I’d rather have a Democrat in Congress who I may disagree with but who has some fundamental character and decency that Wilson clearly lacks."

There are plenty of intelligent, educated, gracious Republicans who've denounced Joe Wilson over his outburst, his half-hearted apology, his lies about the healthcare bill and his decribing himself as a "victim." The right-wing extremists who somehow manage to condone Joe Wilson's shameless behavior represent a scary fringe element in the Republican party, and they can't be reasoned with.

[JFRRACING]

HA HA HA HA maybe it's stupid but it looks like it got ya'll to respond...lol so i guess it was entertaining enough for you to get sucked into responding. have a wonderfull sunday

[lumbollo]

Originally Posted by Frankie117

....The Dixiecrats had already migrated a decade before Nixon took office. Of course, the base composition of the GOP - businessmen and industry professionals - have been such since the party got its start in the 1850s.;

Nope this is incorrect. Nixon in 1968 was elected because of LBJ's handling of the Vietnam War. However Nixon was almost forced into a negotiation with George Wallace because the very people you speak of, gave Wallace enough electoral votes that almost kept Nixon from getting the required number of electoral votes to win. His only saving grace was that Humphrey was such a poor candidate this didn't happen.

See this electoral map of 1968. The vast majority of the South did not vote for Nixon or the GOP. He barely won in SC, didn't get all of NC's votes. He did take Fla. but that was mostly due to the the vote from S. Fla (not really southern) where Nixon had the political sense to go and flail the Democrats over the handling of Cuba and Castro.



Dixiecrats were still not voting with the GOP in '68, they didn't trust Nixon and they didn't trust the party he was with. This changed after Wallace was shot in 1972 and and Nixon was disgraced a year later making room for the Ronald Reagan/Bush/Atwater crowd to move in. I do agree about the comments on the Bush family, but they saw the writing on the wall and readily embraced Reaganism when it suited their purposes.

[ga2email]

While I admit race has something to do with the Obama hate i would say it's only with the very old, not with middle age and young adults. They are not happy with Obama because he's incredibly liberal. He's spending money like it's going out style. People see this and don't agree with it, yet he continues to do it. I'm a minority and I don't agree with Obama's spending spree. Race is definitely not the issue with me.

[doctorjef]

And where were all the conservative loudmouths during the presidency of GWB? It seems it took the election of Obama for them to find their voices. Bush and his henchmen invented evidence to take us into a war of aggression against Iraq that cost a fortune in treasure and the priceless lives of young Americans, sent the deficit spiralling and trampled all over civil liberties and the will of Congress (signing memoranda to thwart Acts of Congress even when not using the veto outright).

And I wish that the loudmouths on the right would learn the proper definitions of socialism, fascism, communism, and nazism/national socialism, since they are either completely ignorant about the true components of these systems and ideologies or simply don't care.

[justNancy]

Originally Posted by ga2email

While I admit race has something to do with the Obama hate i would say it's only with the very old, not with middle age and young adults. They are not happy with Obama because he's incredibly liberal. He's spending money like it's going out style. People see this and don't agree with it, yet he continues to do it. I'm a minority and I don't agree with Obama's spending spree. Race is definitely not the issue with me.

Of course not everyone who dislikes Obama is a racist. In fact, I have to admit that before I began supporting Obama, I was so angry at his camp for trashing the Clintons, that I almost voted Republican! Then I canvassed for Obama when I heard Palin speak. Didn't take much after that.

Regarding Obama's liberalism, I disagree. He is trying too hard to be bipartisan. The spending people are screaming about began a long time ago. The Wall Street bailout was signed by President Bush and so far Obama hasn't started any wars. Sometimes when something is sick, you need to spend more to fix it. If you have a malignancy because of poor health management or a wrong diganosis from your past doctor, the worst thing would be to stop treatment and cut costs. You would want to take very aggressive action to assure that your health improves and that you stay well.

I agree that Obama is not a conservative by any means, but every time I turn on the TV, someone is screaming that government run health care will destroy America, just like Reagan said about Medicare. The people who hold up signs calling Obama "Hitler" and a Communist (and need a history lesson) must also think that France, Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Spain, New Zealand, Australia, etc., are all Communist countries. In fact, I think we should ban Crocodile Dundee because it might be a subliminal form of socialist indoctrination.

[Palin2012]

Wilson spoke for MILLIONS of us who were screaming the same thing at the screen.

#1 The Dems kept giving Obama standings "Os". What's with that?
#2 Obama was lying about EVERTHING. Illegals get free health-care NOW, they'll get it under Obama's plan when they are LEAGALIZED and the NEW illegals will get it.
#3 Wilson should NOT have apologized. One small peep of defiance in a sea of Dem and media zombies. Give me a break.

This makes me want to move to SC MORE. There are at least a few people there who have some BACKBONE. This censored board is NOT representative of them.

RevolutionII is coming, my friends. YOU CAN BET ON IT!!!

[justNancy]

Originally Posted by doctorjef

And I wish that the loudmouths on the right would learn the proper definitions of socialism, fascism, communism, and nazism/national socialism, since they are either completely ignorant about the true components of these systems and ideologies or simply don't care.

Exactly!

[Palin2012]

Originally Posted by justNancy

Exactly!

His parents were avowed Marxists, his childhood mentor was an avowed Marxist, he said in one of his books (ghost written by avowed Marxist Bill Ayers) that he "was careful to only associate with Marxist professors and structural feminists". His Chicago cronies are Marxists and black nationalists, as are half of his appointees. WHAT MORE PROOF DO YOU NEED? Nor has he given up his Muslim identity. He wrote, "If things get ugly, I will side with the Muslims". NOTHING he has said or done since becoming president would lead anyone to think he is anything other than a Marxist, ethnic Muslim, and black racist.

[Columbiadata]

The vast majority of those accusing the president of being socialist never read anything for themselves. They let Glen Beck, Sean Hannity, and Rush Limbaugh feed them everything they think they need to know.