Lakota Indians Withdraw Treaties Signed With U.S. 150 Years Ago (Pine Ridge: homes, high school)

[Chris19]

Originally Posted by smitter

What check every week? I (being native)have never received a check every week unless it was a paycheck. What or what do you think you are talking about? Money from the gov. arrives every week in the mail? What is that? Talk about uninformed.
Keep trying to keep people in the dark, huh? May others who view this never know how you truly feel about natives. (can't hide that very well)
The only natives you see would be the ones you rant about, didn't you mother teach you if you can't say anything nice don't say anything. ie: " this is dumb" DannyBanany meaning (my mind is closed and no one will ever change it)
Nothing will ever change with those attitudes! Nice opinion from the moderator too. REAL UNBIASED. That would be my opinion.
will this get posted?!

I agree that there is misunderstanding of the races, but there are many perspectives and viewpoints. There are whites who absoultely despise the Native Amercians, some who understand, and some who are just plain disgusted with the social problems. I

personally am disgusted at the social problems such as apathy, crime, and poverty on the reservations but would like to see the people as whole have the wherewithall and will to tackle these social problems and become a stronger, happier, and more productive people as a result. I often get disgusted at a few fellow white people for just writing the Native Americans off as a failed people and refuse to give them a chance to succeed: I see potential in these people. It takes time, initiave, education, and a collective effort between the different races to make the potential for better relations and opporuntities realizable. I think that improving and stressing education in the Native American culture will help tremendously in fighting poverty and develop fertile minds with ideas to improve the lives and culture of the Native peoples. The reservations have economic potential with the development of cellolosic ethanol made by grasses, wind energy, and perhaps buffalo farms along with art and tourism. With education, there would be more innovation and entreupeneurialism. Better coordinating tribal laws with national/state laws will spur investment and economic activity. Education instead of welfare is the way to go. Give a man a fish: you feed him for a day. Teach a man how to fish: you feed him for life.

I have come across some decent Native Americans and they are very sincere, but there are others that I come across who lack pride and some that have a racist attitude towards whites. This is with every race, whites included. What is need is the Native Amercians to forgive the past and forwards and for whites and other races to find ways to enable Native Americans to succeed and be more independent. It is a two-way street.

I wish that the forum would take a turn for "what we can do to improve understanding between cultures and peoples" instead of a finger-pointing session. My apoligies for being too blunt at times. Both races need to be less "one-sided" on issues and unite for better understanding and value the virtues of hard work, integrity, love, progressiveness, and unity.

[debey]

http://www.argusleader.com/apps/pbcs...712300328/1004
here's an editorial by Terry Woster, weoirth reading.

[awoods2]

Heres one, the above maps look to encompass the Powder River Basin in Wyoming. The PRB is one of the worlds largest coal deposits and a MAJOR source of coal for the US and the world.

Adam

[awoods2]

Originally Posted by Butterfly777

I'm wondering if Mr Mean is who I think he is? Haven't had the pleasure of meeting him. An activist?? That's what I hear, seen news reports, news paper articles, you tube video's even orderd His Wounded knee documentary/informational DVD.

Not the first time I heard not in for "his" people. This makes me sad.
I wish people would stop hating!!!!!!!

I have had the "pleasure" of meeting Mr. Means. I do not hate him.... I do not trust him, I do not like him.... but I do not hate him.
I have spent a lot of time on the Pine Ridge Reservation, I have many Native American friends on and off the Rez. The truth is Russell and the American Indian Movement (AIM) are terrorists and murders, (maybe some prefer freedom fighters????). Take a look at their record, you will find the truth. Russell has done his time for his crimes, but I just wish he stop trying to start wars. Many on the front lines are my friends.

Adam

[smitter]

Originally Posted by Chris19

I agree that there is misunderstanding of the races, but there are many perspectives and viewpoints. There are whites who absoultely despise the Native Amercians, some who understand, and some who are just plain disgusted with the social problems. I

personally am disgusted at the social problems such as apathy, crime, and poverty on the reservations but would like to see the people as whole have the wherewithall and will to tackle these social problems and become a stronger, happier, and more productive people as a result. I often get disgusted at a few fellow white people for just writing the Native Americans off as a failed people and refuse to give them a chance to succeed: I see potential in these people. It takes time, initiave, education, and a collective effort between the different races to make the potential for better relations and opporuntities realizable. I think that improving and stressing education in the Native American culture will help tremendously in fighting poverty and develop fertile minds with ideas to improve the lives and culture of the Native peoples. The reservations have economic potential with the development of cellolosic ethanol made by grasses, wind energy, and perhaps buffalo farms along with art and tourism. With education, there would be more innovation and entreupeneurialism. Better coordinating tribal laws with national/state laws will spur investment and economic activity. Education instead of welfare is the way to go. Give a man a fish: you feed him for a day. Teach a man how to fish: you feed him for life.

I have come across some decent Native Americans and they are very sincere, but there are others that I come across who lack pride and some that have a racist attitude towards whites. This is with every race, whites included. What is need is the Native Amercians to forgive the past and forwards and for whites and other races to find ways to enable Native Americans to succeed and be more independent. It is a two-way street.

I wish that the forum would take a turn for "what we can do to improve understanding between cultures and peoples" instead of a finger-pointing session. My apoligies for being too blunt at times. Both races need to be less "one-sided" on issues and unite for better understanding and value the virtues of hard work, integrity, love, progressiveness, and unity.

I would say I agree with you on many points. I was going to say ...it was a good save for the out of staters reading. But I am tired of fighting prejudice. Everyone is intitled to an opinion (aren't they like chevy's everybody has one)

Give a man a fish: you feed him for a day. Teach a man how to fish: you feed him for life.

Jesus wouldn't fail us. Love your neighbor as yourself.

[DannyBanany]

Smitter, I am also 1/8 Native American registered as Rosebud Sioux, so what I am saying has nothing to do with prejudice and racism. I do not receive a check every week either, but many Native Americans who need help financially do and I do not believe it is right.

When I said, "This is dumb.", I was referring to the idea of an idiot starting his own country. Trust me, I am the complete opposite of close-minded.

[elston]

The way the United States has reneg'd on every treaty and imprisoned Native leaders like Leonard Pelletier and abandoned the people at the reservations continues to be a mark on our history. Alcoholism and teen suicide and domestic violence are symptoms of hopelessness and extreme and unending poverty and dispair. If this movement can combat the feeling of disconnection and humiliation God Bless Them! We walked away from the treaties long ago! Naming an athletic team or using them or not using them as mascots doesnt restore what was taken. Ho!

[Jammie]

Originally Posted by smitter

What check every week? I (being native)have never received a check every week unless it was a paycheck. What or what do you think you are talking about? Money from the gov. arrives every week in the mail? What is that? Talk about uninformed.
Keep trying to keep people in the dark, huh? May others who view this never know how you truly feel about natives. (can't hide that very well)
The only natives you see would be the ones you rant about, didn't you mother teach you if you can't say anything nice don't say anything. ie: " this is dumb" DannyBanany meaning (my mind is closed and no one will ever change it)
Nothing will ever change with those attitudes! Nice opinion from the moderator too. REAL UNBIASED. That would be my opinion.
will this get posted?!

Are you suggesting that I as a Moderator am not entitled to voice my opinion? I would never be small minded enough to silence you for disagreeing with me as long as you remain in the guidelines of the TOS.

And I don't despise the Sioux so it can only be showing through to you. Your checks don't come weekly. They come monthly. You know all the extras you get like four hundred dollars a year that pays for your heating costs? Also, the monthly food stamps are from the government.

It amazes me that so many have been born receiving and it never stops and is so taken for granted, they don't even realize it's all been free. If you are enrolled in a tribe, I know for a fact that as long as you go back to that Rez, your dental and medical care are free there.

Unless you aren't enrolled and don't affiliate yourself with a tribe, you are receiving more then you're leading us to believe.

Elston, have you checked out the link that I provided several posts back. Please tell me how we reneged on that treaty. They slaughtered and drove off the Arikara who lived there and claimed the land for themselves. We conquered the Sioux, but allowed them to keep their land. They each received a quarter of land and sold it to the white people and other races. We have provided for their needs with government aid and subsides. So now do we take the many acres that they sold and just give it back to them? If you think that's a fair deal I want to do business with you.

[smitter]

I am 27/32 enrolled member if that means anything to anybody but me and mine. Russell Means can speak for himself. I speak for myself.

It only gets very unproductive to be negative. It doesn't require much to become perturbed when I read such a snowball effect.
One person starts " well my friends are native and they do this or that" then others jump right in with their "I saw this happen" A vicious cycle that never ends, so discouraging.
I guess I will continue to try not to speak badly of others, that is a very hard thing to accomplish and I don't succeed many times.
Being negative is the easiest thing to do.
Another easy thing is to giving advice when none is asked. Yes, your way maybe a better way but, by gosh getting it shoved in front of oneself isn't appreciated, it only makes for more bad feelings. H e l l o !! I could probably find fault with every person I meet, every person has faults that is the easy way.

Teach a man how to fish. Maybe understand your pupils. From what I see, there really is a lack of knowledge in many areas.

White people need to forget the past and forwards also. A person can hog the two way street, but there will be consequences usually not a positive one either.
Every action has a reaction doesn't it?

Education is the only thing that can help any people not just natives.

[smitter]

Jammie you don't know me. If you insist on attacking that is your prerogative.
More negativity. Thanks for showing me your little teeth to bad it isn't one of the gushy smiley ones I read on an earlier post of yours. whatever
Free dental and medical care (such as they are) are part of the treaties. Do you want to renege on that also? (By the way I have insurance my medical and dental and vision through my employer) Thanks for being so concerned.