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Old 11-06-2008, 08:14 PM
 
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I never said she was a rocket scientist. I just liked her. I thought she was intelligent, but grounded enough to identify with average people. Besides, VP's rarely do anything of substance anyway. Name something important that Cheney did that helped the average American.

Look at Dan Quayle, he would be out in the first round of "Are you smarter than a 5th grader".

I'm sorry, but I liked the fact that Palin sold the ex-gov's jet and put the money back into the budget. I think Washington could have benefited from gutsy moves like that. I think someone who takes chances like that, would actually make some moves that might help the average american. I will admit I didn't care at all for the "Joe Six-Pack" references. I think that hurt Her and McCain's campaign.

Look at Biden. Do you think he'll be any different than Cheney? I don't. Shortly after Obama takes office, I bet you never hear a thing about Biden unless he gets caught in a scandal. I think Sarah would have been pretty outspoken and done more good for the average American by accident than Biden will do on purpose. I also admit, that much of the good Sarah might do could be by accident BUT, Biden is a professional politician. I've never seen one do any good at all.

As for Obama, I think he is intelligent. Personally, I don't trust him. I think he says what he's told to say. I believe him being the first black president will overshadow a lot of what he will do in office because I think the media will constantly measure him as a black man first and then address the current issue. I hope not. I think many average black families looking to him with pride will strive to feel as if they have something in common with him because they are both black. The problem is, Obama has about as much in common with average black families as he does with me. He may have come from a broken home and rough childhood, but he's Harvard educated and so is his wife. This is the extreme opposite of average, no matter what color your skin is.

This is not a shot at any of them. I hope they do good in office. Time will tell.

Last edited by blackhillsdreams; 11-06-2008 at 09:19 PM..

 
Old 11-06-2008, 08:23 PM
 
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Am I in the S. Dakota forum or the San Francisco forum? Lots of love for our new Marxist socialist leader here. I'm glad this forum doesn't reflect the actual population of your fair state.

Here's an easy summary of what voting 'straight democratic ticket' is going to bring you -



"... Once in the White House, an Obama Administration will claim something to the effect, "The economy is much worse than reported in 2008, we are now looking for massive tax increases for the top 40% of wage earners, not top 2% as pitched on the campaign trail". (Historically, Democrats are notorious about doing this)

Meaning, it won't be the $250K/year crowd. It will be everyone above $60K. Just wait, you'll see. They will also seize control over pensions and 401(k) as a measure to "protect worker's investments" over an unstable and volatile stock market. Nationalization of all retirement savings in a Social Security form. This will have the masses in a roil as this was not the panacea they were pitched in 2008. To prevent risk of civil unrest, FEMA will call for a moratorium on on firearms and ammunition transactions. Look to see double digit unemployment. Further foreclosures. With desperate people comes increased crimes, to the point the government mandates curfews and bans public possession of firearms. Emboldened enemies of America will begin testing a weak, pacifist president. With increasingly lower GDP & GNPs driven by environmentalists refusing to exploit coal, gas and oil, America decays into a third world country. Gutted military spending has our forces rotting with aged equipment. America becomes even more vulnerable to economic attacks by long-time enemies. In desperation, Obama further enacts more Draconian and Marxist structured laws to further control the citizens and prevent full scaled civil war. Continue spiral downward, prepare accordingly.

... Other than that, nothing much will happen"
Sadly, None of this would surprise me in the least. How far things like this will go, nobody knows BUT it is a 100% fact that many campaign promises go out the window the day the election is over. Remember "Read My Lips NO NEW TAXES" which lasted about 2 months...

I say again, in his VERY FIRST SPEECH declaring the win, he said "It may not happen in a year, it may not happen in a term!"

He is either:
A- Campaigning to be re-elected 4 years from now -or-
B- Openly telling you, "I campaigned and promised CHANGE, but don't expect TOOOOO much from me, ok?" -or-
C- Mixed up his words and didn't mean it...

Sorry but, Neither A or B are acceptable and I find C impossible.
 
Old 11-06-2008, 09:15 PM
 
Location: Twin Cities, Minnesota
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And the president elect is more qualified how?
He actually knows what his job entails.
 
Old 11-06-2008, 09:19 PM
 
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He actually knows what his job entails.
Um. that is hardly an answer.
 
Old 11-06-2008, 09:23 PM
 
Location: Twin Cities, Minnesota
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Originally Posted by ulsterscot View Post
Am I in the S. Dakota forum or the San Francisco forum? Lots of love for our new Marxist socialist leader here. I'm glad this forum doesn't reflect the actual population of your fair state.

Here's an easy summary of what voting 'straight democratic ticket' is going to bring you -



"... Once in the White House, an Obama Administration will claim something to the effect, "The economy is much worse than reported in 2008, we are now looking for massive tax increases for the top 40% of wage earners, not top 2% as pitched on the campaign trail". (Historically, Democrats are notorious about doing this)

Meaning, it won't be the $250K/year crowd. It will be everyone above $60K. Just wait, you'll see. They will also seize control over pensions and 401(k) as a measure to "protect worker's investments" over an unstable and volatile stock market. Nationalization of all retirement savings in a Social Security form. This will have the masses in a roil as this was not the panacea they were pitched in 2008. To prevent risk of civil unrest, FEMA will call for a moratorium on on firearms and ammunition transactions. Look to see double digit unemployment. Further foreclosures. With desperate people comes increased crimes, to the point the government mandates curfews and bans public possession of firearms. Emboldened enemies of America will begin testing a weak, pacifist president. With increasingly lower GDP & GNPs driven by environmentalists refusing to exploit coal, gas and oil, America decays into a third world country. Gutted military spending has our forces rotting with aged equipment. America becomes even more vulnerable to economic attacks by long-time enemies. In desperation, Obama further enacts more Draconian and Marxist structured laws to further control the citizens and prevent full scaled civil war. Continue spiral downward, prepare accordingly.

... Other than that, nothing much will happen"
Haha! You've got to be kidding me! And where is this information coming from? What makes you think this is all going to happen? Too bad 52% of our country felt differently than you. Don't worry, I'm sure you'll still be able to keep your ranch and hunt for pheasants.

And on BH's comment "Name something important that Cheney did that helped the average American." I can tell you... NOTHING! In most aspects, Cheney was actually the one running the show and Bush was just a head figure for the American public.
 
Old 11-06-2008, 09:26 PM
 
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And on BH's comment "Name something important that Cheney did that helped the average American." I can tell you... NOTHING! In most aspects, Cheney was actually the one running the show and Bush was just a head figure for the American public.
To quote one of my favorite city-data members: "And where is this information coming from?" I know it is widely believed and may indeed have merit, but what facts do you have that can back that up?
 
Old 11-06-2008, 09:30 PM
 
Location: Twin Cities, Minnesota
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Um. that is hardly an answer.
I'm sure Barack Obama understands what a President actually does.
Sarah Palin doesn't even know which branch of gov't a VP heads.
 
Old 11-06-2008, 10:03 PM
 
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I'm sure Barack Obama understands what a President actually does.
Sarah Palin doesn't even know which branch of gov't a VP heads.
The sound like a lot of conjecture on your behalf. Does not seem to be a whole lot reasoning there...
 
Old 11-06-2008, 10:25 PM
 
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True, I agree with you. I'm not saying Obama will benefit any of these people. If anyone read into my post to believe I was slighting Obama because these people like him, I didn't mean that at all. I don't think he will help them in any way. I'm really just trying to make sense of why they seem so happy he won... it just seems odd to me. I'm wondering why and how they feel it will benefit them?
I think it is because they know with Bush out of the White House and McCain not replacing him, they won't have to worry about being attacked and they can go back to doing anything they want with no fear of being held accountable by America. We all know none of those countries have anything to fear from the UN.
 
Old 11-06-2008, 10:39 PM
 
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Default Difference between Obama and Palin.

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Originally Posted by rjl78 View Post
The sound like a lot of conjecture on your behalf. Does not seem to be a whole lot reasoning there...
The big difference between Obama and Palin is Palin has actually taken on big business, who were corrupt (in her own party) and beaten them. She signs laws not just reccomends them. When Obama got to Washington, he him self said he was fusterated, because he couldn't get anything accomplished.
After all these years of listening to the Dems yell, scream and call names, do you really think the Republicans are going to work with them? Maybe about as much as the Dems have worked with the Republicans. No big changes are coming, at least not good ones. One thing Obama has going for him is he is a good speeker. Maybe he can do something with that.
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