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[debey]

Please: Tell me how you can believe there will be a National Healthcare Porogram, when our President wants to cut the Veteran's Health Care?


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[Jammie]

Debey, I had heard something about that and I think it's awful. But they do have plans for national healthcare and the committee is supposed to be putting it together starting in June and they HOPE to have it up and running by the end of the year. They wanted to start with 19 and younger and they've already done that by expanding the Schips program. Originally, their next phase was to include people 50 or 55 and older. That's what AARP wanted, BUT the way AARP wanted it to be is that the govt. doesn't contribute and people would be paying 600 a month premium or more. It doesn't sound like that will be the phase 2 part.

I dunno. I could be totally wrong, but we're the only industrialized nation that doesn't have national healthcare and it's time for it. They claim it doesn't work that well in Canada and in Great Britain, but I have a friend who knows Canadian healthcare firsthand and she said it's much better then here. Also, we could design it around the plan the Scandanavian countries have because it's supposed to be quite successful.

I did see that since our state got the Stimulus money, the School for the Deaf will remain open and the program for handicapped children will still keep going.

AND I totally understand your frustration with the way veterans have to struggle for everything. Unfortunately, it's always been that way and hopefully that will change, too. It's disgusting that the families of some of our soldiers have to apply for aid because they don't get enough $$. Just not fair.

[SDHomesteader]

Ok I'm one of them Service Connected Disabled Veterans we're talking about lol. Have been 100% rated since sept 2001. My understanding when I first went into the VA before the 100% rating was that my insurance company would be billed first then the VA would take up the slack on the rest. That of course was when I had personal insurance. If I had no personal insurance (now or at the time) then the VA would cover 100% of it unless a means test qualified you to make a small copay. I never knew what the copay was for the actual visits but when I first started out, copays for medications was cheaper than dirt almost, like 2 bucks or 5 bucks for a months supply of meds, and that was virtually all meds.

National Health care is a damn good thing. But the majority of us are brainwashed to think its not. We already have a type of National Healthcare system in place for Veterans and The military. And yeah yeah yeah, I've heard all the so called horror stories (and actually been in the military too so I know its mostly bull) about the military's medical system. That system is sooooo overabused 90% of the time cuz alot of soldiers (I hate to say it I really do but have seen from first hand experience) are looking for any little excuse to get out of doing something, A hangnail, would send most of them off to Sick Call (as they call it in the Army), or a papercut.

The only major dissatisfaction I see with the VA (National Health care system again) is the fact that sometimes I have to wait maybe a 2-3 week period at best to see a specialist and then first need the referral. But thats going through my Primary Care doctor, if I needed something in a faster sense then the emergency room would the other option. But I would never use that unless I really needed to. I see no problem with having to wait a week to 2 or so for something that ISN"T life threatening. But again, the mentality of most of this country is, OMG a papercut, I'm gonna die, I need seen immediately and need an immediate fix for everything. No one is willing to wait anymore.

I watched a Special (through Netflix) from a Public Television Station Show about Nationalized healthcare in other countries (no it wasn't the Michael Moore's or whatever his name is documentary, this one was done by a legitimate reporter lol) and he traveled to I think it was 5 different countries to view their systems and after seeing what he saw, he said he prays every night now to bring a national healthcare system in place here. Found it, It was FRontline, Sick Around the World program done in 2008, in the UK, Japan, Switzerland, Taiwan and Germany. Of course the main problem with the National Healthcare system is the abuse of it by the Illegal Aliens if it were to get implemented.

[DannyBanany]

It's nice to finally see some people who are for universal healthcare. The American healthcare industry is just to concerned with money and not enough with the health of its people.

[Jammie]

Wow, glad to see there are more of us who think the same. Often times when you mention national healthcare, people scream "Socialism!!!"

As far as the illegals~there are already hospitals that cater to them. I've seen documentaries where Americans were turned away because they're only there for the illegals SO they have their healthcare right here. It's the American citizens who need it and it's going to be a shame if this Administration can't get it through because the AMA and the Drug Companies and the very rich prevent it from happening.

SO, since this (especially my fault. ) has kind of wandered away from things relevant with the state~I do have a "state" question.

There's a city in Cali who has healthcare for their citizens. Also, I believe the state of Massachusettes has it for their residents. If national healthcare doesn't go through, will our state make an attempt at it? We're suffering financially so my guess is that it won't happen.

[DannyBanany]

Originally Posted by Jammie

Wow, glad to see there are more of us who think the same. Often times when you mention national healthcare, people scream "Socialism!!!"

There's a city in Cali who has healthcare for their citizens. Also, I believe the state of Massachusettes has it for their residents. If national healthcare doesn't go through, will our state make an attempt at it? We're suffering financially so my guess is that it won't happen.

That's a good question and it's a good idea but I don't see SD doing that anytime in the near future. SD has too much of a right wing mindset. Boy, we sure so love those Social Security checks though, don't we?

That's one thing that always upsets me. It's seems like those that are opposed to any kind of social programs are living on Social Security checks. Thanks for depleting the funds seniors, now what am I supposed to live on when I retire? If I get hurt, how hurt do I have to be before I get disability checks?

[Jammie]

I dunno. Disability is very hard for some people to get and yet others~no problem.

What they should've done about 50 years ago is put the $$ that the Boomer Generation (My generation) paid into social security and medicare. Had they even invested it modestly in order to protect it, there would be money there for us. Some of it was used for the generation before us because a lot of theirs went to their parent's generation. I think it started in 1936 (something like that?) and many of those people had paid very little into it. BUT they didn't get much. But as usual, the govt. made a mess of that, too.

[DeadwoodJ]

I was surfing on the National Forum and ran across this website, if you look at South Dakota its pretty interesting because it shows alot of different economic things like employment and income, Manufacturing growth and other indicators......

FDIC: Regional Economic Conditions (RECON)

[debey]

What does one TRILLION dollars look like?

What does one TRILLION dollars look like?

[DannyBanany]

Originally Posted by debey

What does one TRILLION dollars look like?

What does one TRILLION dollars look like?

Wow that's impressive. I'd be fine with just one hundred!