A black hole can be Vacuum. (visible, seen, find, light)

[s0cratus]

Originally Posted by Gantz

No. The results are not identical.

Black holes have a giant gravitational pull, strong enough to have
hundreds of billions of solar systems orbit their center of gravity,
and even strong enough to bend light (that is how they were observed
in the first place).
Vacuum does not have any gravitational pull,
certainly not on the black hole scale.

Physiccists say the event horizon of a black hole
is boundary between two worlds.
/ / Book: Stephen Hawking. Pages 116.
By Michael White and John Gribbin. /

What are these two (2) worlds ?
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[Gantz]

Originally Posted by s0cratus

Physiccists say the event horizon of a black hole
is boundary between two worlds.
/ / Book: Stephen Hawking. Pages 116.
By Michael White and John Gribbin. /

What are these two (2) worlds ?
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So basically you are a troll who doesn't have a response and is just trying to switch the conversation to another topic. Ok, I am done here.

[s0cratus]

Let us think that black holes are real objects.
( For example: GX 339-4 six times more massive than our Sun )

Then we have the old questions:
From which partices does black holes consist?
Where does the mass of these particles come from?

We are again on the infinite circle of our foolishness because
we don’t know where the mass of our own Sun come from..
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[s0cratus]

Does somebody know what Vacuum is ?
1.
Book : ‘Dreams of a final theory’ by Steven Weinberg. Page 138.
‘ It is true . . . there is such a thing as absolute zero; we cannot
reach temperatures below absolute zero not because we are not
sufficiently clever but because temperatures below absolute zero
simple have no meaning.’
/ Steven Weinberg. The Nobel Prize in Physics 1979 /
2.
‘If we were looking for something that we could conceive
of as God within the universe of the new physics,
this ground state, coherent quantum vacuum might be
a good place to start.’
/ Book ‘The quantum self ’ page 208 by Danah Zohar. /
3.
And Paul Dirac wrote:
‘ The problem of the exact description of vacuum, in my opinion,
is the basic problem now before physics. Really, if you can’t correctly
describe the vacuum, how it is possible to expect a correct description
of something more complex? ‘
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Does somebody know what Vacuum is ?
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Socratus
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[s0cratus]

mathematical idealization

when we mathematical model the scenario of an object
moving we try to model things as simply as possible,
so we consider a scenario where there is no impediment
to its motion that would be a perfect vacuum.
But in practice there is less that perfect.
So the Platonic realm of idealization gives way
to physical reality by concessions.
/ roger /
But in practice there is less that perfect.
/ roger /

But in practice there are many claims that perfect
vacuum energy has a physical relevance:
in Vacuum polarization, in Casimir effect,
in the cosmological constant, Lamb shift,
electron magnetic momentum anomaly.
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Is perfect vacuum only a ‘mathematical idealization’ ?

Socratus
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[Brian.Pearson]

On the other hand, the mass of the black hole could be a relatively small space, so to speak, leaving nothing but a vacuum between the actual mass and the event horizon could be a vacuum.

[s0cratus]

I have a stuped question:
Can Perfect Vacuum as a ' Nothing' as ‘ an Infinite space’ as
an Absolute Zero have Concrete Physical Properties ?
Socratus

[s0cratus]

More exactly:

Can Perfect Vacuum as a ' Nothing' as ‘ an Infinite Space’ as
an Absolute Reference Frame have Concrete Physical Properties ?
Socratus
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One Concrete Physical Properties of Vacuum is Absolute Zero.
What is Absolute Zero ?
Classic Physics says: It is a dead space.
Quantum Physics says: It is not a dead space.
There are ‘ Virtual Particles’ exist.
What is Absolute Zero ?
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Socratus
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P.S.
What is Absolute Zero ?
Where is a wise answer and where is a fool answer if these
two theories ( Classical and Quantum theories) are correct ?
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[Trackwatch]

Originally Posted by s0cratus

What is Absolute Zero ?

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Absolute zero is the temperature in which all molecular action stops(layman's terms), NO WHERE is this temperature shown in our universe, it is extrapolated by experiment, you did these experiments in HS Science didn't you? Remember the graph with boiling point and freezing?

It is ~-273C or ~-460F

A Black Hole isn't "nothing", it is in fact very large and very powerful, the gravity is so large nothing that enters its event horizon can escape, even light, so it would appear as a hole in space.

[Brian.Pearson]

I'm not sure what freezing or boiling has to do with the topic, nor does this tremendous gravity. There can still be a vacuum in certain kinds of black holes.