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Old 11-28-2011, 09:48 PM
 
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Old 11-29-2011, 01:23 PM
 
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I predict that when we send people to Mars, we will find people on Mars.
Those whom you send + the Martian
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Old 11-29-2011, 01:46 PM
 
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If you're so certain there are villages, people, etc., on Mars, what actual evidence can you present to support your view, other than the claims of the late (uneducated) Mohammed al-Hilly?
He was not uneducated, but not graduated at any primary, secondary school, college or university or any religious school.

This of course made him independent of any philosophy or sect program and doctrine; and he followed the inspiration of his Lord: God Most Gracious, and followed the guidance without being affected by any propaganda or party program.

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Regarding satellite images, of course Mars is far from Earth. So what?
So what! How do you say: so what; this is the difficulty point; the difficulty in communicating and receiving the real and actual precize images and no coloration of course, then comes the moderation and modification according to their imagination of what should Mars be: red ground and red atmosphere, frozen land (CO2 of course) and devoid of water.

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Regarding water on Mars, don't give me your nonsense of what I may or may not have said.
It is your nonsense when you think such a big planet with its day and night, polar ice caps, the mountain tops covered by ice and the cloud drifted by the wind in the atmosphere of Mars ...etc; and all this with no water and no life.

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While there's plenty of good evidence that Mars contained water in its past, and that there appears to be underground resevoirs of water, we've never actually seen liquid water anywhere on the surface. One good possibility was the appearance of several new gullies showing as dark streaks that might well have been caused from liquid water that had burst from the walls of a crater, which is quite likely, but still unknown. What was seen is the erosional effect that liquid water can create. The dark streaks seem to appear and disappear seasonally. It might be that those dark streaks was water, or rather moist soil, but it isn't certain.
http://www.google.iq/url?sa=t&rct=j&...tlmbpCUfRY8p6w

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Let me think back, didn't you once say you believe the size of the planet Mars is larger than the size of the Earth?
Yes, Mars is larger than Earth and smaller than Jupiter.

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Old 11-29-2011, 02:10 PM
 
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Yes, Mars is larger than Earth and smaller than Jupiter.

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Really? The calculations are wrong? Then what calculations do you think have been used to send the Curiosity rover and other probes, landers and rovers to Mars?

Will you please provide a reference link showing that Mars is larger than the Earth? Thank you.
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Old 11-29-2011, 02:33 PM
 
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Second part - While water is thought to be essential for life, there could be other liquids which might also allow for life (although nt proven). That said, just because water may be present on Mars, is not proof of Martian people living there.
Wherever there is water, there is life.

The late interpreter of the Quran and the Bible Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Hilly said there is the people of Mars, in addition to the animal and plant.

An anticipated meeting between the inhabitants of Earth and the inhabitants of some other planets




The late interpreter of the Quran and the Bible, with his mark: the obvious mole on his right cheek [in additon to the rest of his features that had been described in the narrated books]; died at 1991
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Old 11-29-2011, 02:45 PM
 
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Really? The calculations are wrong? Then what calculations do you think have been used to send the Curiosity rover and other probes, landers and rovers to Mars?

Thank you.
Thank you.

There had been some delay and wrong calcualtions for the arrival specially of the early voyages to Mars.

All this was corrected in practical way, not in mathmatical calculations.

Such calculations were not any fatal mistake, but anyhow are mistakes. And they will correct this later on.

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Old 11-29-2011, 05:12 PM
 
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Thank you.

There had been some delay and wrong calcualtions for the arrival specially of the early voyages to Mars.

All this was corrected in practical way, not in mathmatical calculations.

Such calculations were not any fatal mistake, but anyhow are mistakes. And they will correct this later on.

The Wrong Calculations of Astronomers Concerning Mars
Thanks. Earlier, the previous link didn't work for me at all. It wasn't showing up as a link. This one is working just fine though. So then this link confirms where your information is coming from. The late Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Hilly claimed there are people, animals and plants on Mars. Can you provide any other sources of information that is reliable? Or is that the only source you rely on?

BTW, if he didn't graduate from any primary, secondary school, college or university, or religious school, then it can be said he was uneducated. For example, my own grandparents and great-grandparents never went to school. They were uneducated, but that doesn't mean they were ignorant about everything. They were able to raise families, had skills to provide food and shelter, and lived their lives to ages 90 to 98.
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Old 11-29-2011, 05:15 PM
 
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Thank you.

There had been some delay and wrong calcualtions for the arrival specially of the early voyages to Mars.

All this was corrected in practical way, not in mathmatical calculations.

Such calculations were not any fatal mistake, but anyhow are mistakes. And they will correct this later on.

The Wrong Calculations of Astronomers Concerning Mars
Thanks. Earlier, the previous link didn't work for me at all. It wasn't showing up as a link. This one is working just fine though. So then this link confirms where your information is coming from. The late Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Hilly claimed there are people, animals and plants on Mars. Can you provide any other sources of information that is reliable? Or is that the only source you rely on?

BTW, if he didn't graduate from any primary, secondary school, college or university, or religious school, then it can be said he was uneducated. For example, my own grandparents and great-grandparents never went to school. They were uneducated, but that doesn't mean they were ignorant about everything. They were able to raise families, had skills to provide food and shelter, and lived their lives to ages 90 to 98.

You still haven't answered the question. What if no people, villages, plants and animals are found on Mars?
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Old 11-29-2011, 06:54 PM
 
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Thanks. Earlier, the previous link didn't work for me at all. It wasn't showing up as a link. This one is working just fine though. So then this link confirms where your information is coming from. The late Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Hilly claimed there are people, animals and plants on Mars. Can you provide any other sources of information that is reliable? Or is that the only source you rely on?

BTW, if he didn't graduate from any primary, secondary school, college or university, or religious school, then it can be said he was uneducated. For example, my own grandparents and great-grandparents never went to school. They were uneducated, but that doesn't mean they were ignorant about everything. They were able to raise families, had skills to provide food and shelter, and lived their lives to ages 90 to 98.

You still haven't answered the question. What if no people, villages, plants and animals are found on Mars?
He cannot, and will not, answer that question because his blind faith will not allow the possibility to exist. Like a horse wearing blinders never knowing what is right beside them.
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Old 11-29-2011, 07:22 PM
 
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Well I doubt we will find people,plants, animals or villages.. But if we do we can chase them around in a massive nuclear powered rover the size of a compact car.


I mean if Curiosity landed on Earth and chased people around to learn about and study them it would be pretty freaky making if we (just say for the sake of the thread) we find life and make first contact with a Massive nuclear powered Rover.

I mean we could have some Fun but we won't find any signs of life ecept for some microbes.. but we might find that mars has water which means we can make a trip there sometime in the future.

If they were any signs of human life with villages and forrests we would have spotted them with our probes or massive telescopes.

The fact is we are the only planet that has a vast array of life and we are alone in the Sol Solar System.

If we want to find other life we need to go beyong our solar system and that means we need to have ships that can travel at near the speed of light and we would have to perfect Nuclear Fusion and build massive ships and have perfected NASA's VASMIR engines and create a massive Radation shield for solar Radation, artifical gravity, and the adavanced computer systems with adavanced AI to pilot it at those speeds then you have to factor in that the ship would be a multi-Generation ship due to the fact that we do not live long enough to travel to some of the farther solar systems and it would need to be a ship that is 100% self sustained.

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