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Old 02-08-2012, 08:56 PM
 
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Could it be possible that Hollywood is wrong when they assume that the more advanced a species is, the more benevolent it is? On Earth it is a top predator, and highly aggressive, species who has built the great observatories, developed mathematics, and the space rockets and space shuttles of our very limited space travel. Why should we think evolution works differently on other worlds? Are we providing gold-plated maps to super intelligent pirates and marauders who will eat us alive just as we have done to many lower species on our own planet?

Just a thought.
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Old 02-10-2012, 04:44 PM
 
Location: Missouri, USA
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Maybe we have been found?
Where Are All the UFO's? (TV 1996) - IMDb

The above gives the title of a program called "Where Are All the UFO's"

There are a few nuts...the most entertaining of the bunch is a "Native American," who looks suspiciously caucasian, who for some reason decided to wear his ceremonial outfit for the interview.

It also has some interesting stuff too though.

I could understand why the government would want to hide evidence of alien contact...problably to discourage Jeb who works at Dickey Bub from attempting to contact them, thereby starting an interspecies war by firing a shotgun at a flying saucer which lands on his lawn...which he just mowed...just this morning, people...just this morning. Dang migrants...hermaphrodite Mexicans who give birth when their young devour their organs and burst through their stomachs, people. That's all they are, just hermaphrodite Mexicans who give birth when their young devour their organs and burst through their stomachs. We need to build another fence.
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Old 02-10-2012, 09:05 PM
 
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I am here....I am just waiting for the freaking mother ship to return....I am ready to go home.. You all humans are one crazy lot............
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Old 02-12-2012, 08:31 AM
 
Location: Missouri, USA
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I am here....I am just waiting for the freaking mother ship to return....I am ready to go home.. You all humans are one crazy lot............
Get off ma lawn! GET OFF THE LAWN!!!!!!

DURKA! DURKA! FWOOM!!!!!
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Old 02-12-2012, 05:54 PM
 
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Get off ma lawn! GET OFF THE LAWN!!!!!!

DURKA! DURKA! FWOOM!!!!!
What strange animals care so much about a 200 x 200 pad of grass with a hut on it to live in........not to much more evolved than a chimp that guards it tree from other chimps....Strange how the Native American Indians had no concept of property...Owning the land is not possible because it is part of the earth, and it is everyones to share.....Humans have not even evolved to the point of being above their animal instincts...Humans are closer to chimps than gods.....If aliens wanted to take earth there would be no invasion, we would just turn off your star if we wanted or needed to. Just here observing now....
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Old 02-12-2012, 08:51 PM
 
Location: Westwood, MA
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Maybe ET isn't out there? Or maybe if he is he's too far away to ever make any meaningful contact or have any meaningful communication. It's not a very interesting explanation, and it doesn't fit in with the science-fantasy fairy tales we've been told our whole lives, but it's also the one that is most fitting with the available evidence.
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Old 02-12-2012, 09:26 PM
 
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Due to the vast expanses of the universe, it is highly improbable that a life force that develops on a planet and thus becomes fully dependent on the resources and environmental make up of that planet, will have the longevity or the capacity to support multiple generations of beings on a transport "ark."

That being said, it leaves two possible scenarios for encountering beings from another planet or region of space. Somewhere in the universe, an intelligent race such as ours has already reached the singularity. In this case the robotic creations have already overthrown their creators and have begun interstellar colonization. Unhindered by their need for food (save for whatever ingenious form of internal or external power they harness, perhaps they have discovered how to run off the cosmic background radiation) or warmth, they plunder the cosmos, seeking raw material to build more and more of themselves.

In scenario two, there could be organic beings that occur naturally in space. Whether they "fly" or hitch a ride on asteroids or comets, they become ubiquitous in certain regions of the universe and perhaps one day, make it out towards Earth.

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Old 02-12-2012, 09:36 PM
 
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Maybe ET isn't out there? Or maybe if he is he's too far away to ever make any meaningful contact or have any meaningful communication. It's not a very interesting explanation, and it doesn't fit in with the science-fantasy fairy tales we've been told our whole lives, but it's also the one that is most fitting with the available evidence.
Indeed, any of those are very plausible reasons. While it would be incredibly weird and unlikely that there isn't some kind of intelligent form of life elsewhere in the galaxy, not to mention the rest of the universe, we really don't yet have any idea one way or the other.
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Old 02-13-2012, 04:20 AM
 
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Why hasn't anybody yet mentioned the Fermi paradox?
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The apparent size and age of the universe suggest that many technologically advanced extraterrestrial civilizations ought to exist.
However, this hypothesis seems inconsistent with the lack of observational evidence to support it.
Fermi paradox - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 02-13-2012, 01:53 PM
 
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Why hasn't anybody yet mentioned the Fermi paradox?
Fermi paradox - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Good observation! The Fermi paradox (Fermi-Hart paradox) deals with several possible explanations which are much less optimistic than that of the Drake Equation. It's fair to say that the Drake Equation wasn't meant so much to be definitive, but provided a reasonable method to explore the probabilities of extraterrestrial life, including intelligent life, elsewhere in the galaxy. On the other hand, the Drake Equation (if taken as is) is far too incomplete in that it doesn't take into account many additional factors. As such, newer modifications of the Drake Equation substantially reduce the equation by adding in many additional factors not included in the original equation. The modified versions do not rule out the likelihood of intelligent life elsewhere in the galaxy, but suggest that intelligent life is probably much more rare than the original equation had estimated. Admittedly, some of the new factors are difficult to determine as to how valid (or not) they are. As such, they're just guesses. And that brings it back to the point I made, that at the present time, we have no idea one way or the other.

The Fermi paradox doesn't really provide a way to explore the probability of extraterrestrial intelligent life in the galaxy, especially advanced forms of intelligent life, but rather looks at the same idea as the topic of the thread, which in effect is why haven't we detected any signs of of E.T.? There are loads of possible reasons which are related to the Fermi paradox, but it still amounts to guessing. We're still very much at the beginning of exploration which leaves plenty of room for new and unexpected discoveries. If we could find any evidence on Mars that microbial life ever existed there, or perhaps still does, that would greatly increase our understanding about the probabilities of life elsewhere in the galaxy, and increase the chances of intelligent life as well. It's a very slow process which takes one step at a time.

The discovery that water is a lot more abundant in the solar system thsn previously thought has increased the chances that life may have emerged elsewhere. The discovery of rocky planets in other solar systems, a few of which are at or near the habitable zones relative to their host star, is also encouraging but inconclusive. The ALH 84001 Mars meteorite gives a tempting hint of possible nanobacteria, but that issue still remains inconclusive and unproven.

It's possible we could be in somewhat of a barren zone of the galaxy with respect to intelligent life, and that such life could be much more abundant on the opposite side of the galaxy. Who knows? Maybe we are the advanced intelligent life form in the galaxy. Or maybe we amount to being too unintelligent or uninteresting for ETs to bother with. We don't know where we fit into the broader scheme of life in the galaxy.
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