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Old 10-04-2014, 01:45 PM
 
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if its a progressed style of life as its roughly known, their virus's etc would have evolved as well.

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Old 10-04-2014, 02:09 PM
 
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If aliens came to Earth, what would we do?

Surrender.

If aliens from another world were to come to earth here they would be so far superior to us humans and so technologically advanced that hey would more than likely have total control over what happens when they arrive.
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Old 10-05-2014, 01:01 AM
 
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If aliens came to Earth, what would we do?

Surrender.

If aliens from another world were to come to earth here they would be so far superior to us humans and so technologically advanced that hey would more than likely have total control over what happens when they arrive.
What have we Earthlings got to offer that would motivate aliens to visit Earth?, At best they might send a few drones for scientific purposes.
If they were a space faring race i'm sure their science would be well versed on any planets biology before making physical landing so getting Earth born viruses wouldnt happen, Also with a kneejerk reaction to nuke any visiting aliens we can be sure we wont be officially visited anytime soon.
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Old 08-16-2015, 12:21 AM
 
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With our minuscule understanding of the vastness of the universe, and with our concrete discoveries of micro organic life that has fallen to earth in meteors, it seems quite obvious that intelligent life must exist beyond earth.

Human beings are still primitive, and we could easily destroy ourselves in the future, and never make it to a point that we can join any inter-galactic communities, but lets take a quick step back, to look at ourselves, just in case extraterrestrial life ever does decide to grace us with their presence and make it known.

What does it require to travel in space? Energy, and a lot of it. What would it require to travel at a meaningful fraction of light speed, so as to make interstellar travel worth doing? A TON of energy.

We already have theorized devices that could use vast amounts of energy to turn dirt into anything we want, e.g. Food and Water, or anything else, by rearranging the particles. And we have theorized dozens of other advanced technological concepts that can give EVERYONE on earth EVERYTHING they could ever want, but these devices would require tons of energy.

If we ever get to the point that traveling the stars beyond our solar system is feasible, then we have also reached the point that we desire NOTHING, because we have the energy to fabricate ANYTHING we want.

Take this idea to extremes, which traveling near light speed is already at. By the time we can amass enough energy to leave our solar system we could either terraform uninhabitable planets into new Earths, or we could simply copy and paste earth like a computer program and generate the new Earth wherever we want it.

So, if intelligent life ever does reach our planet, we have nothing that they could want.

Some critics to this might suggest we could at least serve as guinea pigs to their experiments, which is true enough. And we are certainly the equivalent of test rats compared to a species that can travel the stars, but then the question is what would they test? and why? And the bigger question, at least for me, is what could they do to us that is worse than what we do to each other?

If we are ever graced by extraterrestrial life forms, that traveled to us on purpose, then please follow the golden rule. Treat others as you would like to be treated.

Peace,
Yeti - the tech geek hippie
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Old 08-17-2015, 06:52 PM
 
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It is a toss.
1. Our Ebola alikes wipe out Aliens.
2. Alien Ebola alikes wipe us out.
3. Both are wiped out.
4. Both survive.

Next is the logistics. It is pretty stupid(maybe influence by TVs/Movies) to presume life forms are compatible. So you spend tons of resource to another solar system and find out you are not compatible with the native life forms. Then you have to decide whether to waste more resource on this planet or go to another solar system with one way ticket or go back home.

You should read my planet/astroid/satellite generation starships idea.
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Old 08-18-2015, 12:50 AM
 
Location: Heart of Dixie
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When confronted by an "alien" look at their features...

If their eyes face forward they are predatory - RUN!!!!
If their eyes are on the side of their heads - no worries, they are not used to predators or they wouldn't be here.

If they are wearing armor and/or weaponry - RUN!!!!
If they aren't, they don't expect a battle.

Look at their hands. If they only have three fingers they didn't build that spaceship - RUN!!!!!

Last of all, if you hear their voices in your head - you're toast, cuz they just mentally pwned you big time.
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Old 08-21-2015, 09:25 PM
 
Location: Prescott
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What would we do if aliens visited Earth, presumably peacefully?

I think one issue is communication. Logically, there's no reason to suggest we'd be able to communicate with them. Just think of the diversity of animals here on Earth. There's a variety of forms of communications; humans certainly have the most complex, but there's no real reason to suggest that alien life would even have a language.

And why would they be here? Is it just to say 'hello?' Do they want something? Let's say we wanted to trade... but they didn't? Obviously, they would be technologically superior if they visited us. We would want that technology. Would they simply share it with us to be nice? Would they want something in return, and what would we offer if they did? Is the concept of 'trade' even something they would have. Once again, no other animal on Earth trades things like we do. We buy property, little sections of the Earth; no other animal, no matter how territorial, does that. Why would aliens?

And what if they came as an act of war? Obviously, we can assume they are vastly more intelligent that us if they come to us. How would we fight them? Are there 'wars' different from ours? Would we even stand a chance... and also, who's we? Would humans be able to get over their own conflicts among themselves and fight against the alien invaders? What about the aliens? Do they have separate races, or cultures, or nationalities?

I ask these just as a way to provoke thought. So many alien movies involve a race of aliens who have developed a way of life that is similar to our own in some way. They wage war, can offer trades, and have technology that is similar to ours (though possibly vastly superior). But in reality, Earth's life is still unique, even if there a billions of planets that have life. We evolved specifically for Earth, just as the aliens evolved specifically for their planet. This means we literally have no idea what to expect when they show up. And it just begs the question(s): 1) how would our governments handle it 2) how would we (ordinary people) handle it and 3) what kind of dynamic would you personally expect between the human race and the alien race; would it be hostile, peaceful, awkward...?

Interesting post. You know, Dr. Stephen Hawking was always vehemently of the mind that we should cease our SETI (Search for ET Intelligence) because, like you say, any ET civilization doing "fly by's" of our planet, like the UFO believers claim, would be vastly superior to is technologically. And our own history has shown that when an advanced society visits upon an inferior one, well, let is say the visitors have most often not been very nice. Thus, Hawking believes we should keep quiet, since if we were to be visited, to make "contact of the third kind" they could almost certainly do with us what they pleased, and take whatever resources we had that they felt they needed or even wanted.

Remember the distances involved here! We know for certain there is not Intelligent life in our own Solar System. The planets are simply too un-hospitable to support that kind of life. Or ANY life other than the microbial variety that is perhaps nesting in some ice glacier somewhere. So....Intel Life coming to us would have to, at the very closest, come from our nearest star--other then our Sun, of course. This is actually a binary star system called Alpha Proxima/Alpha Centauri. It is 4.3 light-years away! Meaning of course that even travelling at the speed of light, 186,000 miles per second, it would take them over four years to get here. With our current fastest space peopulsion technology, it would take us about 20,000 years to get there!

So anybody coming here, by necessity, has evolved past what we think of as conventional propulsion systems. They have to be using some sort of non-materialistic travel. Maybe at a quantum mechanical teleportation level, like the old Star Trek "Beam me up, Scotty!" LOL. Or perhaps they are folding the Space Time Continuum. Or using a wormhole as a short-cut conduit. This to us is right now only the stuff of Science fiction! We're not even close to it. it exists to us only in abstract mathematical equations. Far from reality, even on a robotic level. let alone human conveyance methods.

So they would be as far above us in intellect as you are to your pet gold fish!

Don't get me wrong: I personally believe the universe is teeming with life. Including that of the Intelligent Variety. There are 400 Billion Stars with planets in our own Milky Way Galaxy. And then factor is a couple hundred billion more Galaxies. If even one out of a billion stars in the Universe had planets and one out a billion of those planets had primal life, and one out of a billion of THOSE had intelligent life--that STILL leaves billions and billions of planets with Intelligent Life. It would be a waste of space on the most unreal level for us to be the only intelligent life in the Universe.

But those damn distances, man. They'll get you every time. And these numbers allude to only our Known Universe. If we are indeed a small part of a Multi-Verse, as some Cosmologists claim, then the candidates for Intelligent Life get even MORE mind-blowing.
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Old 08-24-2015, 09:55 PM
 
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Beer and a burger? Unless they came from the Taurus constellation, then just a beer.
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Old 08-24-2015, 09:56 PM
 
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Give them free medical and food stamps.
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Old 08-26-2015, 10:52 AM
 
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We're only what? 100 years maybe less from hitting the digital singularity.

Any life that rocks up is going to be digital rather then biological in nature, well more probably whatever comes after digital whatever that is.

Being a basically omnipotent AI has some serious advantages. Time is well pretty meaningless if you want to take a stroll around the neighbourhood plus you don't have to worry about any of that pesky life support and can pull as many gs as you want.

As to what supremely powerful AI would want to do when it rocks upto earth? Its obvious simultaneously troll everyone on the internet and watch every cat video recorded.
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