Eric Dollard: "All the theories collapse when the stars are not visible in space" (rover, Mars)

[Michael Way]

In the video below, from 0:47 to 0:58, look carefully at this photo of the Earth taken by the Apollo astronauts from the surface of the moon. You can faintly see a few stars in the background. But go into the YouTube website itself because the video is bigger and it's easier to see the stars.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6JqnLLILNU

[303Guy]

Originally Posted by Snowball7

You can look at all the Apollo photographs and they are all black sky with no sun and no stars.

There's a good reason for that. They didn't point their cameras toward the sun. Bad things would happen to the image if they did. Why would there be stars in the black 'sky' of space? Try pointing a camera at the stars you can see and snapping a shot. You would get a black sky. Well, you could use a high sensitivity camera with a long exposure and wide aperture or both and get something. But in space, it's like being in the broad daylight here on earth. We cannot see the stars during the day simply because there is too much light from other sources. The sky is lit up by the sun (making it appear blue).

[Snowball7]

Originally Posted by Mike555

Astronomer Phil Platt, who worked as part of the Hubble Space Telescope team, says at 1:35 into the video

His name is Phil Plait, and he's been the biggest shill in astronomy ever.
He's the "Bill Nye" of astronomy. If we are to believe that the Apollo
missions went to the moon, I will believe the astronauts and the
photographs they took more than whatever Phil Plait is told to say.
Do you realize Alan Bean was on the opposite side of the Earth and Sun
and is on record saying there were no visible stars !! He did not see
the Sun either, although he claims to have enountered glare in his visor
how do we know that's not light reflected off the moon surface or its
gaseous "atmosphere". Mike Collins said "we didn't see any" when asked
about stars. This totally contradicts what the shill said in that
video. Maybe he should report facts instead of lies - but he can't do that because
the mainstream science industry (which is not top tier science) isn't ready to rewrite
its textbooks. Dirt Grinder, physics has nothing to do with my point in this thread.
When it comes to thoughts that seem opposed to the indoctrinated, some minds
are simply incapable of independent thought. Perhaps you are one of them.

The STIS and Hubble cameras are spectrographs that represent images
and gain images from ultraviolet, infrared and visible (although manipulated)
the equipment is designed to capture a light-based presentation of the stars.

Moreover, the point is moot because Hubble is still in the darn atmosphere,
reacting with particles !!!!

Hubble is misrepresented as being outside the atmosphere. It is not.
It supposedly hangs just barely outside the thermosphere at 340/50 miles.
Just because it's in low-Earth orbit doesn't mean its in space.
Orbit is not a qualifier for space, it is a qualifier of gravitational force.
The Hubble is still well-within the visual influences of atmosphere.

None of the truly space-launched exploration satellites have provided
us with pictures of the sun, only the planets !

Look at this actual picture which the Voyager took of Earth from 4 Billion
miles distance. NO SUN. NO STARS. Earth shows up as light, not the stars.
Catalog Page for PIA00452

[Michael Way]

Originally Posted by Snowball7

His name is Phil Plait, and he's been the biggest shill in astronomy ever.
He's the "Bill Nye" of astronomy. If we are to believe that the Apollo
missions went to the moon, I will believe the astronauts and the
photographs they took more than whatever Phil Plait is told to say.
Do you realize Alan Bean was on the opposite side of the Earth and Sun
and is on record saying there were no visible stars !! He did not see
the Sun either, although he claims to have enountered glare in his visor
how do we know that's not light reflected off the moon surface or its
gaseous "atmosphere". Mike Collins said "we didn't see any" when asked
about stars. This totally contradicts what the shill said in that
video. Maybe he should report facts instead of lies - but he can't do that because
the mainstream science industry (which is not top tier science) isn't ready to rewrite
its textbooks. Dirt Grinder, physics has nothing to do with my point in this thread.
When it comes to thoughts that seem opposed to the indoctrinated, some minds
are simply incapable of independent thought. Perhaps you are one of them.

The STIS and Hubble cameras are spectrographs that represent images
and gain images from ultraviolet, infrared and visible (although manipulated)
the equipment is designed to capture a light-based presentation of the stars.

Moreover, the point is moot because Hubble is still in the darn atmosphere,
reacting with particles !!!!

Hubble is misrepresented as being outside the atmosphere. It is not.
It supposedly hangs just barely outside the thermosphere at 340/50 miles.
Just because it's in low-Earth orbit doesn't mean its in space.
Orbit is not a qualifier for space, it is a qualifier of gravitational force.
The Hubble is still well-within the visual influences of atmosphere.

None of the truly space-launched exploration satellites have provided
us with pictures of the sun, only the planets !

Look at this actual picture which the Voyager took of Earth from 4 Billion
miles distance. NO SUN. NO STARS. Earth shows up as light, not the stars.
Catalog Page for PIA00452

Just read this.

Why Can’t Stars Be Seen In Moon, Space Photos? | WIRED

And this.

https://briankoberlein.com/2015/09/1...tars-in-space/


Don't you realize how silly it is to say that from space you can see objects which reflect the light of the Sun, but that you can't see the Sun which actually produces the light that allows you to see objects which reflect that light?


And how about answering the question put to you concerning your point in arguing that the Sun and stars can't be seen from space. What are you trying to prove or disprove?

[Michael Way]

Here's something else for you to read Snowball. It turns out that the Apollo astronauts navigated partially by sighting the stars using an on-board sextant to verify their location.

The rupture and explosion of Apollo 13’s oxygen tank crippled the spacecraft, endangering the lives of the crew and making a Moon landing not an option. But more problems arose as the perilous flight progressed. Keeping the spacecraft on the right trajectory was a huge challenge for Mission Control, and especially for the crew. Normally, the ship’s computers allowed for much of the navigation, but due to the loss of the Service Module as an electrical power source, even backup navigation and targeting functions were unavailable. The Lander’s limited battery power required the shutting down of its guidance computer. The astronauts also needed to use an on-board sextant to confirm their location by sighting-in the stars, similar to how ancient sailors navigated. “There are thirty-seven stars – and one is the sun,” said Apollo engineer Jerry Woodfill, “that provided an accurate way of aligning the spacecraft’s computer platform to allow the astronauts to steer their way through the heavens.”

But the explosion of the tank had enshrouded the Apollo 13 spacecraft with debris. Commander Jim Lovell and his crew couldn’t discern the stars from the particles that glimmered in the sunlight. “The situation was, without the ability to see the stars, you couldn’t navigate,” Woodfill said.

13 Things That Saved Apollo 13, Part 6: Navigating By Earth's Terminator - Universe Today

[Dirt Grinder]

Originally Posted by Snowball7

...Dirt Grinder, physics has nothing to do with my point in this thread.
When it comes to thoughts that seem opposed to the indoctrinated, some minds
are simply incapable of independent thought. Perhaps you are one of them...

Let's just say I don't live in the same silly reality you imagine, with absurd principles that even a five year old can disprove. Most of us are equipped to understand the reality in which we live, others simply tilt at windmills.

[Matadora]

Originally Posted by Dirt Grinder

Let's just say I don't live in the same silly reality you imagine, with absurd principles that even a five year old can disprove. Most of us are equipped to understand the reality in which we live, others simply tilt at windmills.

[harry chickpea]

Originally Posted by Dirt Grinder

Let's just say I don't live in the same silly reality you imagine, with absurd principles that even a five year old can disprove. Most of us are equipped to understand the reality in which we live, others simply tilt at windmills.

[PanTerra]

Smelfh!

[Mr. In-Between]

It's profoundly disturbing to be reminded that in this day and age - with all the information and scientific knowledge that's readily available to anyone with a computer - there are still people who actually believe this sort of lunacy. It's literally on the same level as believing that the sun is a golden chariot dragged across the sky each day by a team of horses. How does an adult - with, presumably, a job and other day to day responsibilities - even function with this cognitive process? How does someone even graduate 6th grade? I'm not trying to be mean; I'm genuinely curious. I don't understand how someone can even get through the day if this is how they interpret the world in which they live.