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Old 03-27-2017, 01:50 PM
 
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I am curious.

First Apollo mission was 8 days.
They had no toilet, like they have now and were in spacesuits.
They are said to have plastic bag taped to buttocks for feces collection and condom type catheter with bag - all inside the space suite - for urine collection.
Average human produces roughly 2 liters of urine a day. Times 8 is 16 liters, or 3 1/2 gallons.
Average human produces about 1 lb of feces per day, times 8 days, 8 lbs.

Set aside inability to wipe oneself, my question is - where did all this go inside the space suite? 3.5 gallons is LARGE volume.

Am I missing something?
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Old 03-27-2017, 03:07 PM
 
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...They are said to have plastic bag taped to buttocks for feces collection and condom type catheter with bag - all inside the space suite...Am I missing something?
The urine was vented into space, and the solid waste was collected in a bag. None of the waste was stored in the suit.
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Old 03-27-2017, 05:45 PM
 
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Ok, so now I am very curious.

This is how process is described:

n reality, using the urine collector didn't work so well. For one thing, it could be painful. If you opened the valve too soon, some part of the mechanism was liable to poke into the end of your penis, which prevented you from urinating. And at that point, as if to confirm your worst fears, the suction began to pull you in. Now you were being jabbed and pulled at the same time, so you shut the valve, and as the mechanism resealed itself it caught a little piece of you in it. It took only one episode like that to convince you to never let it happen again. Next time you had a strategy: start flowing a split-second before you turn on the valve. But once you began to urinate the condom popped off and out came a flurry of little golden droplets at play in the wonderland, floating around and making your misfortune everybody's misfortune! And in no time at all the whole device reeked; it was an affront to the senses just sitting there. The astronauts got used to the urine collector, though, and they got used to mopping up afterwards. But there was no getting used to the other part of the Waste Management System. Tucked away in a strange locker was a supply of special plastic bags, each of which resembled a top hat with an adhesive coating on the brim. Each bag had a finger-shaped pocket built into the side of it. When the call came you had to flypaper this thing to your rear end, and then you were supposed to reach in there through the pocket with your finger---after all, nothing falls in zero gravity---and suddenly you were wishing you had never left home. And after you had it in the bag, so to speak, you had one last delightful task: break open a capsule of blue germicide, seal it up in the bag, and knead the contents to make sure they were fully mixed! At best, the operation was an ordeal. In the confined space of the Apollo command module, your crewmates suffered, too. One of the Apollo 7 astronauts said the smell was so bad it woke him out of a deep sleep. When the crew came back they wrote a memo about it: "Get naked, allow an hour, have plenty of tissues handy."


That is fine. But every picture I see of Apollo mission inside the spacecraft, they have spacesuit on. How do you attach fecal bag IN THAT?





There is something that looks like opening for genitals in the front, I can see how a suction tube may work. But in the rear? And it darn looks like same suite they used in space?
I am still missing something.
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Old 03-27-2017, 06:17 PM
 
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OK, so the flap I mentioned simply covers closure for the suit.

Torso Limb Suit Assembly

Between Apollos 7 and 14, the two lunar module astronauts, the Commander (CDR) and Lunar Module pilot (LMP), had Torso Limb Suit Assemblies (TSLA) with six life support connections placed in two parallel columns on the chest. The 4 lower connectors passed oxygen, an electrical headset/biomed connector was on the upper right, and a bidirectional cooling water connector was on the upper left.

There is no mentioning of any openings for tubes, or bags.



And to put a bag onto buttocks requires quite some opening.
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Old 03-27-2017, 10:11 PM
 
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I think you just have to think of these things as if they are Grimm's Fairy Tales. There are so many things which do not add up in our media-fed world and the people who feed us this stuff like to make sure we are receieving pat answers to our questions. This forum is full of people who like to do that.

Looking for answers is useless, however we need to make the liars accountable and that starts right now. Until we make a decision to stop taking this rubbish from them we will continue to be fed the same stuff over and over again.

You can call me paranoid if you like but more and more people are waking up to the terrible way we are all treated.

The answer to your question is that it is all an illusion. We have a secret space fleet which is far far advanced of rockets as can be seen from the craft everyone sees zipping about in our skies. No-one is talking about it or acknowledging it but thousands of people have seen them and reported them.
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Old 03-28-2017, 08:13 AM
 
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I think you just have to think of these things as if they are Grimm's Fairy Tales. There are so many things which do not add up in our media-fed world and the people who feed us this stuff like to make sure we are receieving pat answers to our questions. This forum is full of people who like to do that.

Looking for answers is useless, however we need to make the liars accountable and that starts right now. Until we make a decision to stop taking this rubbish from them we will continue to be fed the same stuff over and over again.

You can call me paranoid if you like but more and more people are waking up to the terrible way we are all treated.

The answer to your question is that it is all an illusion. We have a secret space fleet which is far far advanced of rockets as can be seen from the craft everyone sees zipping about in our skies. No-one is talking about it or acknowledging it but thousands of people have seen them and reported them.
Must be it.

The answer to "How do they pee and crap in space?" is "We have a secret Star Fleet".

Call it Rube Goldberg's Razor - the most complicated, convoluted, unlikely, illogical explanation has to be right.
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Old 03-28-2017, 11:43 PM
 
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...There is no mentioning of any openings for tubes, or bags.

And to put a bag onto buttocks requires quite some opening.
That illustration is for an "extravehicular" suit - for going OUTSIDE the space ship. They wear what is basically a diaper when doing Extravehicular Activities (EVAs) in that suit. Come on people, use that blob of noodles between your ears.
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Old 03-29-2017, 08:44 AM
 
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So, what we need is a similar image of the IVA or IEVAto see where the flaps and zips are.

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Three types of spacesuits exist for different purposes: IVA (intravehicular activity), EVA (extravehicular activity), and IEVA (intra/extravehicular activity). IVA suits are meant to be worn inside a pressurized spacecraft, and are therefore lighter and more comfortable. IEVA suits are meant for use inside and outside the spacecraft, such as the Gemini G4C suit.
wikipedia space suit
gemini space suit (also Apollo)
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Old 03-29-2017, 12:54 PM
 
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Some people have too much time on their hands and imaginations that would be better turned to productivity.
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Old 03-29-2017, 06:14 PM
 
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Some people have too much time on their hands and imaginations that would be better turned to productivity.
In a society, if everyone just concentrated on making things, then no-one would dream-up new designs. There must be artists and builders. Each of these groups needs the other to bring their designs into being.

How boring life must be for those who do not imagine how marvellous our world could be.
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