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Old 05-27-2017, 02:24 AM
 
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Could you see us ever having a war in space?
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Old 05-27-2017, 12:44 PM
 
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Like Star Wars or Star Trek? No. At least not now. No country has anything like a fighter aircraft that they can fly around in space. Space war so far has been limited to hacking of satellites on rare occasions.
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Old 06-01-2017, 10:43 PM
 
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Like Star Wars or Star Trek? No. At least not now. No country has anything like a fighter aircraft that they can fly around in space. Space war so far has been limited to hacking of satellites on rare occasions.
I think you are behind the times. There are now many people who have seen strange craft in the sky. Now, unless these are alien craft, which of course is unlikely, these craft are NOT powered by jet engines and can probably go into space just as easily as they can zip through our atmosphere. The Russians have had scalar technology since 1970's, the Germans were developing 'flying saucers' since the 1940's. The Paperclip scientists came to the USA to continue development. It is unlikely these technologies have not moved forward since then.

Although this opinion is controversial and certainly not scientific yet, there is some evidence that we have already had a war in space in this Solar System. There are anomalous shapes in Mars photographs, many of which look as if they are not just normal rocks and there is the suggestion that there are pieces of an exploded planet in our Solar System too. Of course, it is only speculation as to how all these pieces arrived there. Until we get someone out there to investigate, no-one will know for sure. However, there are many people who like to believe it would explain many of the unexplainables.
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Old 06-03-2017, 09:09 PM
 
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I don't really think so.
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Old 06-04-2017, 10:37 AM
 
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Probably not.

This is a function of the resources necessary for such an endeavor. There's a reason that only three nations have ever achieved crewed orbital space launches, and barely a dozen more have even independently achieve uncrewed orbital launches. Space launches are extremely expensive. Weapons platforms tend to be rather heavy. Thus, we have a combination of extreme difficulty in establishing a significant military presence in space, as well as an inordinately strong incentive not to risk valuable non-military hardware in space by introducing war into space.

The major powers that have anywhere close to the ability to send weapons platforms into space on any scale have all studiously avoided direct conflict with each other over the last half century. This has been a long-term trend since World War II. Civil wars still abound in undeveloped nations, and there are conflicts between major powers and non-spacefaring nations. But there's no chance that Assad and ISIS are going to take the Syrian Civil War into space (because, obviously, they can't). And there's no chance that the Iraqs and Georgias of the world (each recently in conflict with a spacefaring major power) are going to battle in space.

Basically, in order for that sort of large-scale human presence in space, we're looking at harnessing humanity as a global entity. Eventually, there will be some sort of global union or government (probably the former gradually evolving into the latter), and it is then - when vast amounts of resources are not devoted to having the ability to conflict with ourselves - that space travel can truly flourish.

And then, of course, there won't be any other powers against which to battle in space.
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Old 06-04-2017, 10:52 AM
 
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I'd think the first need would be an adversary.
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Old 06-04-2017, 11:36 AM
 
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I'd think the first need would be an adversary.


That would be the deciding factor. necessity being the mother of invention. Humanities needs have not evolved to where war in space is needed. The expense and technology involved is tremendous. As of right now, what do w have in the way of propulsion for space faring warships? The vast distances involved in space are also problematic. Then, what could we develop in the way of weapons that would be effective in the vaccum of space?


Imagining and postulating on such technology is fun I grant, but for practical application? The reality comes crashing in.
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Old 06-04-2017, 06:17 PM
 
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I dug up a two year old 60 minutes video about Space Command, the Air Force agency responsible for safeguarding US space interest. It's fascinating what they do and what they are capable of (that they are telling us about). A sort of space armed race has been going between the US, China, and Russia for sometimes now. All three countries can shoot down satellites with ground based missiles. China shot down one of their satellites during a test. Russia launched a satellite that looked like a space debris. The US has laser systems that can disable satellites. The Air Force also flies two X-37b unmanned vehicles. What these spacecrafts are used for has been a secret and a source of much speculation by the public. Fascinating stuff!!!

Since satellites are expensive and vital to modern life, attacking them might be considered an act of war. A space war will quickly turn into a ground war. I am not sure any country wants to go up against the US in space or on the ground.
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Old 06-05-2017, 03:30 AM
 
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Imagining and postulating on such technology is fun I grant, but for practical application? The reality comes crashing in.
Really?? Do you imagine silent aircraft in the sky? Do you postulate they can fly into space? I think new weapons technology is a deadly game and is not fun at all and yes, it certainly has practical applications.
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Old 06-09-2017, 09:59 AM
 
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Why not, the war in space might be the end of the Earth epoch. We will destroy ourselves but it might be the start of colonization. Just read at http://solarstory.net/objects/ about different probes. Isn't it the beginning. It will take hundreds years but it's going to have its logical evolution
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