U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Science and Technology > Space
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
 
Old 02-05-2018, 09:21 AM
Status: "living in a political world, where mercy walks the plank" (set 14 days ago)
 
Location: Bel Air, California
21,733 posts, read 22,540,375 times
Reputation: 34290

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by curiousgeorge5 View Post
Anyone think its possible the early landings were faked but the later ones were real?
^Russian fake social media bot

 
Old 02-05-2018, 12:34 PM
 
12,281 posts, read 3,238,906 times
Reputation: 8175
Quote:
Originally Posted by curiousgeorge5 View Post
It's odd how we're much more advanced we are technologically now, yet we haven't gone back. Shouldn't it be much easier now than in the late 60s?
Its kind of like how everyone says todays cell phones and computers are as powerful as the ones NASA used in the first space venture, but if thats true, why arent people doing things equal in scope with their computers?
 
Old 02-05-2018, 04:15 PM
 
Location: Heart of Dixie
12,446 posts, read 11,239,900 times
Reputation: 28225
Quote:
Originally Posted by rstevens62 View Post
Its kind of like how everyone says todays cell phones and computers are as powerful as the ones NASA used in the first space venture, but if thats true, why arent people doing things equal in scope with their computers?
Probably because they don't understand the fundamentals of science and physics let alone propulsion, orbital mechanics, and spacecraft design.
 
Old 02-05-2018, 04:48 PM
 
7,160 posts, read 3,912,101 times
Reputation: 6719
Quote:
Originally Posted by rstevens62 View Post
Its kind of like how everyone says todays cell phones and computers are as powerful as the ones NASA used in the first space venture, but if thats true, why arent people doing things equal in scope with their computers?
Go play Kerbal Space Program and you’ll get a taste of the mechanics involved.

Note that the Apollo Guidance computer was very limited, you weren’t playing solitaire on it. Here are its commands -

 
Old 02-05-2018, 04:58 PM
 
2,276 posts, read 895,432 times
Reputation: 3938
Quote:
Originally Posted by Markus86 View Post
If it was a hoax then we would have already known about it.
It would be practically impossible to fake live footage of six moon landings way back in the 60's and 70's, when technology was much more limited.
Not even today would it be that easy to fake those moon landings in a way that looked completely natural to a physicist or geologist - you would have to make sure that the astronauts moved exactly like they are supposed to move in 1/6 gravity, you would have to create an extremely huge vacuum chamber to get rid of all possible traces of an atmosphere, and you woul have to somehow darken the sky and and at the same time keep the sun.
And even if you were to use cutting edge CGI, it would still be insanely hard to make everything look completely realistic, down to the smallest detail - any hint of fakery would be immediately obvious to any scientist.

The reason why some images look strange and suspicious is because a lot of things work differently on the moon.
For example, there is a hoax myth that they "moved" the lunar lander between photos because it seems to have very different foregrounds and still have the same backgrounds, but the explanation for this is that those photos were taken from different angles, and the background was actually very far away so it changed very little - there is no atmosphere on the moon, so distant objects will look just as crystal clear as close objects, and this creates an illusion that they appear to be closer than they actually are.

Also, all my physics teachers in college have on at least one occasion used footage from the moon landings to explain various physical phenomena.
Even my university physics book treats the moon landings as given facts, and often mentions them in the chapter about gravitation.
It even explained the reason for why astronauts almost always appear to be running on the moon:
you start running when the force that you exert on the ground becomes bigger than your own weight, and for this reason you will start running at much lower speeds on the moon than on the Earth, since it's much easier to exert a force larger than your own weight on the moon because your weight is 1/6 of your Earth weight.
This part of the pro-moon landing argument makes no sense at all. Saying that the state of 60s/70s era technology would have made it impossible to fake a moon landing makes it even more impossible with that same technology to actually make it to the moon. If we did not have the technology to fake it, we also did not have the technology to actually do it.

IMO, the moon landings were a hoax. The technology at the time was not up to the task, it would even be difficult to do today. I think we sent up some empty rockets and capsules and that the manned landing part was completely faked and staged. Other countries did not call us out on it because we either paid them off or now that the US had 'sent' men to the moon, their governments were not going to be pressured by their own citizens to light billions of dollars on fire to do it first.
 
Old 02-05-2018, 05:12 PM
 
7,160 posts, read 3,912,101 times
Reputation: 6719
Quote:
Originally Posted by shorman View Post
This part of the pro-moon landing argument makes no sense at all. Saying that the state of 60s/70s era technology would have made it impossible to fake a moon landing makes it even more impossible with that same technology to actually make it to the moon. If we did not have the technology to fake it, we also did not have the technology to actually do it.

IMO, the moon landings were a hoax. The technology at the time was not up to the task, it would even be difficult to do today. I think we sent up some empty rockets and capsules and that the manned landing part was completely faked and staged. Other countries did not call us out on it because we either paid them off or now that the US had 'sent' men to the moon, their governments were not going to be pressured by their own citizens to light billions of dollars on fire to do it first.
Ignorance is bliss. So thousands of engineers kept quiet, all of the documented tracking by governments and individuals were faked, the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter data and images were faked, and the Soviet Union, desperate to beat the US to the moon was somehow placated or bought off.

Good thing opinions don’t count, science does. And the science is definitely on the side that it did happen.

Here’s a movie that will feed your opinions...


 
Old 02-05-2018, 10:42 PM
 
588 posts, read 152,075 times
Reputation: 342
Quote:
Originally Posted by SVTLightning
I listened to Neil DeGrasse Tyson talk about this, he said it would be more difficult to fake than it would be to just to go there. I believe we went. I don't think we went back because there really wasn't a reason to. Not much there.
The interesting thing is THERE IS NO WAY WE CAN VERIFY IF THEY REALLY WENT OR NOT!!

We wanna think YES they made that first trip but do we have any HARD EVIDENCE they did??
 
Old 02-05-2018, 11:31 PM
 
Location: Heart of Dixie
12,446 posts, read 11,239,900 times
Reputation: 28225
Quote:
Originally Posted by sandy221 View Post
The interesting thing is THERE IS NO WAY WE CAN VERIFY IF THEY REALLY WENT OR NOT!!

We wanna think YES they made that first trip but do we have any HARD EVIDENCE they did??
IT HAS BEEN VERIFIED. Unmanned orbiters have been sent back (look-up Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter, or LRO), and they have photographed the landing sites. The hardware and lunar rover tracks are visible in the photographs. What on earth do they teach in school these days?????
 
Old 02-05-2018, 11:51 PM
 
588 posts, read 152,075 times
Reputation: 342
Ya I guess it has been in a way....... Its too much on edge I think to discuss.......
 
Old 02-06-2018, 03:22 AM
 
Location: PRC
3,241 posts, read 3,363,801 times
Reputation: 2950
OK, so IF someone can prove "beyond reasonable doubt", there are aliens on the Moon, then it DOES call into question whether we were allowed to go there and land multiple times. Doesn't it?

If that is so, then some of the rumours about us being warned off might just be true.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Closed Thread

Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Science and Technology > Space
Follow City-Data.com founder on our Forum or

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2019, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35 - Top