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Old 05-07-2018, 08:42 AM
 
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Moon didn’t happen (yet). Everybody get over it.

 
Old 05-07-2018, 10:19 AM
 
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Every bit and piece of Apollo is documented

Don't you find it strange that more and more of the so called evidence is lost? Loads of moon rocks missing, live footage tapes erased, no machines to play back biometric data and so on...?


Could you please point me in the right direction to find info on how the landing module was built?
 
Old 05-07-2018, 10:33 AM
 
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Don't you find it strange that more and more of the so called evidence is lost?
No. Do you have any idea of the amount of data a project of that size leaves behind?

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Loads of moon rocks missing
Sounds unlikely, but you're short on specifics, so...

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live footage tapes erased
200,000 reels were degaussed for re-use. That was SOP in the 60s.

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no machines to play back biometric data and so on...?
Handbuilt systems made for a single purpose back 5 decades ago?

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Could you please point me in the right direction to find info on how the landing module was built?
NASA has a ton of good info. Here's a decent primer from Grumman:

https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/LM04_Lu...e_ppLV1-17.pdf



https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/alsj-LMdocs.html

Once again, I find myself in awe of the engineering these guys could do with slide rules and protractors.
 
Old 05-07-2018, 04:14 PM
 
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On the contrary - anyone with an ounce of sense does know for sure.
No they dont. They know what they’ve been told happened. On TV, in textbooks, etc. Nobody has any real way of independently verifying the Apollo missions happened the way we were told they did. The easiest way of course would be with your own two eyes and a telescope, but (in)conveniently, they don’t make any strong enough to see an abandoned lunar rover or any of the other junk they supposedly left over there. But that is really all it would take to put this one to bed forever.
 
Old 05-07-2018, 04:55 PM
 
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No they dont. They know what they’ve been told happened. On TV, in textbooks, etc. Nobody has any real way of independently verifying the Apollo missions happened the way we were told they did.
I have never laid eyes on Gibraltar, but I'm fairly certain it's there. You?

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The easiest way of course would be with your own two eyes and a telescope, but (in)conveniently, they don’t make any strong enough to see an abandoned lunar rover or any of the other junk they supposedly left over there.
"They" would love to make terrestrial telescopes with that resolution. But the laws of physics sure can be inconvenient.

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But that is really all it would take to put this one to bed forever.
Not at all. People would move the goalposts - how can you be sure that wasn't placed by robots decades later? Isn't it convenient how the tracks match up with all we've been told - are you telling me the astro-nots didn't do one single thing that wasn't by the playbook?

The LRO missions provided some excellent photos, incidentally.
 
Old 05-07-2018, 07:46 PM
 
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I have never laid eyes on Gibraltar, but I'm fairly certain it's there. You?
You'll have to explain that one to me I guess. I was unaware anybody thought it didn't.

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"They" would love to make terrestrial telescopes with that resolution. But the laws of physics sure can be inconvenient.
So we agree then. It's inconvenient.

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Not at all. People would move the goalposts - how can you be sure that wasn't placed by robots decades later? Isn't it convenient how the tracks match up with all we've been told - are you telling me the astro-nots didn't do one single thing that wasn't by the playbook?
Now you're just kvetching. NASA would not fly a car to the moon ex post facto out of fear people would not see one in their very powerful telescope and uncover the ruse. That's ridiculous. If you looked through your very powerful telescope (theoretically...right now) and see a lunar rover plus the burnouts and cookie marks they were making with it, that proves everything. But I don't think you would if this telescope theoretically did exist. I believe anything NASA tells me about as much as I believe anything the CIA, FBI, or any of the other alphabet soup agencies try to spoon feed us.

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The LRO missions provided some excellent photos, incidentally.
I'm sure they did but that isn't independent verification either. Actually, I think I did see a few of them and wasn't too impressed. Case open!
 
Old 05-08-2018, 05:54 AM
 
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Don't you find it strange that more and more of the so called evidence is lost? Loads of moon rocks missing, live footage tapes erased, no machines to play back biometric data and so on...?


Could you please point me in the right direction to find info on how the landing module was built?
Post on the Long Island forum that you’re doing research and are looking for Grumman engineers who built the LM. I’m sure you will get responses or leads.

Sometimes I think the whole hoax thing started after the Capricorn One movie came out in the late 70’s.
 
Old 05-08-2018, 10:20 AM
 
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No they dont. They know what they’ve been told happened. On TV, in textbooks, etc. Nobody has any real way of independently verifying the Apollo missions happened the way we were told they did. The easiest way of course would be with your own two eyes and a telescope, but (in)conveniently, they don’t make any strong enough to see an abandoned lunar rover or any of the other junk they supposedly left over there. But that is really all it would take to put this one to bed forever.
As I noted back in post #6 there is all kinds of independent verification concerning the Apollo missions. Your not wanting to believe that verification doesn't change that fact no matter how much you rant this nonsense of yours.
 
Old 05-08-2018, 10:45 AM
 
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As I noted back in post #6 there is all kinds of independent verification concerning the Apollo missions. Your not wanting to believe that verification doesn't change that fact no matter how much you rant this nonsense of yours.
Agreed. Sadly some will cling to their beliefs despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

Threads like this are why there should be a “Conspiracy Theories ” forum. That way all the proponents can have a place to gather and talk about their beliefs. Or lack thereof.
 
Old 05-08-2018, 11:04 AM
 
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Actually, I think I did see a few of them and wasn't too impressed. Case open!
So - you saw images that 100% conformed with records of the Apollo landings and weren't "too impressed", yet you expect us to believe you'd consider the question settled if you saw the same images in a terrestrial telescope.

This is not going to go anywhere, is it?
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