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Old 11-28-2017, 12:11 AM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Depends upon how long ago he was five.

There was a time when there was no such thing as "low-fat" or "non-fat" cheese. Or 2% milk (although skim milk has been around for a long time.)

Just like there was a time when no one ever heard of tuna packed in water instead of oil.

And no one got tested for something called cholesterol.

And no one said "pasta" for noodles.

It was definitely like that back in 1969 when the first manned moon landing occurred.

I'm guessing his dad meant the moon was made of plain old full-fat, cholesterol-laden cheese.
Yes, it was probably regular cheese. The fat kind.

 
Old 11-28-2017, 12:37 AM
 
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I think he said swiss
 
Old 11-28-2017, 06:37 AM
 
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Who really cares about this? Our government lies to us about so many things that it would not surprise me. But clearly they could go now if there was something there that they wanted. If it was made of OIL you can bet they would be making regular trips.
Thats why so many people do not believe it, after so many proven lies and outright deception, its hard to trust anything this Govt says.

It should be noted what the CIA actually uses the word 'conspiracy theory' for, its purpose is to discredit those trying to divulge facts, things the CIA or others do not want the public to know. I have to laugh whenever I see people throwing this term around and calling others 'wacky conspiracy theorists', when in reality, its THOSE people, the ones who believe what a Govt says and does, are the ones who are truly being duped. LOL
 
Old 11-28-2017, 06:41 AM
 
Location: Greenville, NC
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And another thing....why hasn't the U.S. ever gone back to the moon since July 20th, 1969? Our technology now must surely surpass what we had back in the 60s, yeah?
Because it is prohibitively expensive to do so. Our debt from the WW II, Korean and Vietnam wars coupled with the Space Race bankrupted this nation. It is the very reason that Richard Nixon was forced to close the Gold Window which ended the gold standard. Our debts were coming due and we simply didn't have enough gold to pay them.
 
Old 11-28-2017, 06:50 AM
 
Location: 912 feet above sea level
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Thats why so many people do not believe it, after so many proven lies and outright deception, its hard to trust anything this Govt says.

It should be noted what the CIA actually uses the word 'conspiracy theory' for, its purpose is to discredit those trying to divulge facts, things the CIA or others do not want the public to know. I have to laugh whenever I see people throwing this term around and calling others 'wacky conspiracy theorists', when in reality, its THOSE people, the ones who believe what a Govt says and does, are the ones who are truly being duped. LOL
And that's complete nonsense.

The existence of governmental duplicity in no way changes the fact that the vast, vast majority of government actions and statements are ordinary and factual. If you'd bothered to think about it for a few seconds, you'd realize that any sort of major lie tends to get rapidly exposed. Tonkin. Watergate. Vast stockpiles of WMD. And yet you're sitting there LOLing at 'dupes' not for blindly believing NASA's claims re Apollo but for pointing out the myriad flaws in the scheme that would be necessary to manage such a feat.

The government says smoking causes lung cancer. Does that mean your knee-jerk reaction is to insist that smoking is harmless?
The government says seat belts save lives. Does that mean you think it's safer not to wear one?
The government says that tornadoes are more common in Oklahoma than in Oregon. Do you refuse to believe this?
Because that's your logic, applied.

'dupes'?

Look in the mirror.
 
Old 11-28-2017, 11:17 AM
 
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Thats why so many people do not believe it, after so many proven lies and outright deception, its hard to trust anything this Govt says.
Then don't. Spend a few hours looking into the Apollo critique and ask yourself if the hoax idea makes any sense, because it doesn't.

Most of the die-hard Apollo conspiracy theorists really are wacky.

A good portion have no idea of the technology and the mission, they just want to insist that their ignorance should somehow be given merit as "critical thinking", when there's no thinking involved. Their entire argument is an insistence that they deserve acknowledgement that they're smart for the mere act of not believing. That's laziness.

Then there are the semi whackjobs who'll insist that the mission is impossible because it doesn't mesh with what they imagined it should look like. The "Why are there no stars?" types. (We had a guy on this board thinking the LM outer cover looked sloppy, hence it couldn't have worked in his mind.) And the full-blown whackjobs who'll insist on seeing structures on the Moon, or argue that rockets can't work in vacuum, or whatever pet silliness they have.

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Old 11-28-2017, 11:20 AM
 
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Let this sink in. The same people who believe this was a hoax are the same people that vote and reproduce.
 
Old 11-28-2017, 11:20 AM
 
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The fact that the lunar landing is even being questioned makes me fear for the future of humanity. We should be progressing not going backwards.
 
Old 11-28-2017, 11:22 AM
 
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Because it is prohibitively expensive to do so. Our debt from the WW II, Korean and Vietnam wars coupled with the Space Race bankrupted this nation. It is the very reason that Richard Nixon was forced to close the Gold Window which ended the gold standard. Our debts were coming due and we simply didn't have enough gold to pay them.
We. Did. Go. Back.
 
Old 11-28-2017, 11:35 AM
 
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Because it is prohibitively expensive to do so. Our debt from the WW II, Korean and Vietnam wars coupled with the Space Race bankrupted this nation. It is the very reason that Richard Nixon was forced to close the Gold Window which ended the gold standard. Our debts were coming due and we simply didn't have enough gold to pay them.
The US has never had a problem in servicing its debt. Even with the War of 1812 trying us hard, by 1836 we had made our way to paying back all that we had borrowed to finance the Revolutionary War. Not a penny's worth of scheduled payments of principal or interest was missed. These days, we don't even appropriate funds to pay off maturing debt. We just borrow whatever is needed from those lined up to invest in our economy.

The gold standard had meanwhile died by 1971. It had outlived itself already in the 19th century, but was propped up in order to get through WWI and then again to underly Bretton Woods after WWII. Fiat currencies are a much better solution to the problem. They are backed after all not just by gold, but by everything produced within the GDP of a currency-issuing economy.
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