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Old 04-03-2018, 04:32 PM
 
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It looks like supersonic passenger flights are on the horizon.

Lockheed Martin awarded Low-Boom Flight Demonstrator contract
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Old 04-04-2018, 05:27 AM
 
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It looks like supersonic passenger flights are on the horizon.
Well they are coming, but the industry is not likely to take off strictly flying passengers over the ocean. The project you mentioned will provide some data to repeal laws and permit transcontinental flights.

These new low cost Transatlantic flights in single aisle jets will prepare the way for flying in an even tinier plane at supersonic speeds.

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Old 06-20-2018, 07:16 PM
 
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Seems like a bit of a dead end considering the Concorde was put out to pasture 15 years ago without a replacement.

Supersonic flight doesn't seem to scale up into mundane everyday passenger airline service very well. The hardware is too expensive and most people are not in that big of a hurry anyway to justify the cost. It's not unlike trying to design a commuter bus that will do what a Bugatti Veyron does.
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Old 06-21-2018, 08:59 AM
 
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It looks like supersonic passenger flights are on the horizon.

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From 2022 to 2025, flight tests will be conducted in the vicinity of four to six cities around the U.S., roughly twice a year, to assess how the sonic thumps would be perceived by residents in surrounding communities. Those test cities have yet to be selected.
Lockheed Martin awarded Low-Boom Flight Demonstrator contract
Assuming this proceeds on schedule (a big assumption), that means we're still seven years away from the conclusion of the scaled-down one-off prototype testing. On the further assumption that these 'low booms' prove acceptable, there's the designing of a scaled-up full passenger model, the creating of the production process, the production itself, the testing, the certification ... all of which will take well beyond another full decade.

So, horizon? Sure.

Some high school graduate who isn't even conceived yet might take the inaugural flight to do his gap year in Europe.
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Old 06-21-2018, 06:25 PM
 
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It's not unlike trying to design a commuter bus that will do what a Bugatti Veyron does.
The better analogy is the European rail network.

There used to be an overnight train from Paris to Barcelona that took just under 12 hours. You would board the train just after 8PM and arrive just after 8AM. Prices were €220 round trip with bunk bed (four to a room). At the very least it used to save you the price of a hotel room which could be very expensive in Paris. It was possible to go to one city, spend 12 hours, and then board the train and go back to sleep on your return.

Now that the train takes 6.5 hours there are no beds available. Prices are well above €220 round trip except for some specials which vanish almost immediately. You now have to buy a hotel room.

After 1978 in USA planes tried to compete with the costs of a single person driving an automobile (factoring in gasoline, food and hotels). In Europe it used to be that planes were for the upper class and trains were for the middle class. Now it has reversed, where train travel is for the well off.
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