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Old 11-06-2018, 11:57 PM
 
Location: PRC
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I just thought that others might be interested in the story of the Russian 'shuttle' along with pictures from this Polish photographer.

He also has projects on Chernobyl and Fukushima.
https://www.podniesinski.pl/portal/?lg=en
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Old 12-09-2018, 07:50 AM
 
Location: San Antonio, Texas
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The Soviet Shuttle had a major problem in that it's attachment points to the ENERGIYA booster were highly stressed. The Shuttle itself didn't produce propulsion of it's own at launch, so all that aerodynamic pressure which the American shuttle offset with the Main Engines may have been sufficient to prevent the vehicle from being re-used nearly as often. Overall program cost was way up, and the Soviet Shuttles were (true to Soviet Doctrine) intended to be mass produced, cheap, and to be retired when they wore out instead of maintained. Hence the reason they built so many prototypes, so many models, and so many tests before production of the first Shuttle.

Another thing to consider: Soviet landing sites and launch sites had more severe weather than America has. Florida being closer to the Equator is very ideal. The Soviet launch site is superb, but wind conditions at most Soviet airfields were beyond what most Space Shuttle commanders would ever dream of approaching. For those reasons, the Soviet Shuttle had Jet engines... which got rid of the main engine concept.
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Old 12-11-2018, 03:49 PM
 
Location: Madison, Alabama
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I just thought that others might be interested in the story of the Russian 'shuttle' along with pictures from this Polish photographer.

He also has projects on Chernobyl and Fukushima.
https://www.podniesinski.pl/portal/?lg=en
The guy did a very nice, and courageous, job. He'd make a good spy after having survived the ordeal without dying or being jailed for life.
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Old 12-13-2018, 09:56 PM
 
Location: PRC
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The guy did a very nice, and courageous, job. He'd make a good spy after having survived the ordeal without dying or being jailed for life.
The point is, the world needs to know exactly what is going on and not just what the authorities want us to know. After the Japanese spin-doctors had their grubby little paws on it, there was not much truth left in the early days.

I was following it very closely, and still there is no admission of where the cores are now and what radioactive poisons they are producing. The radiation is being flushed into the sea locally because there is an underground source of water which flows through the site and past the cores. They cannot remove all the radiation from the cooling water, there is not enough storage space. Anyway...see the pictures linked.
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Old 12-14-2018, 06:30 AM
 
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The Soviet Shuttle had a major problem in that it's attachment points to the ENERGIYA booster were highly stressed. The Shuttle itself didn't produce propulsion of it's own at launch, so all that aerodynamic pressure which the American shuttle offset with the Main Engines may have been sufficient to prevent the vehicle from being re-used nearly as often. Overall program cost was way up, and the Soviet Shuttles were (true to Soviet Doctrine) intended to be mass produced, cheap, and to be retired when they wore out instead of maintained. Hence the reason they built so many prototypes, so many models, and so many tests before production of the first Shuttle.

Another thing to consider: Soviet landing sites and launch sites had more severe weather than America has. Florida being closer to the Equator is very ideal. The Soviet launch site is superb, but wind conditions at most Soviet airfields were beyond what most Space Shuttle commanders would ever dream of approaching. For those reasons, the Soviet Shuttle had Jet engines... which got rid of the main engine concept.
The production Buran didn’t have jet engines - just the test articles.
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