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Old 11-08-2019, 02:16 PM
 
Location: Macon, Georgia
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Damn say no more.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/07/us/na...rnd/index.html
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Old 11-08-2019, 05:26 PM
 
Location: Somewhere in northern Alabama
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If they don't like what they find, it probably is too late to send it back for a refund...
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Old 11-11-2019, 02:39 PM
 
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Most of the samples that were brought back from the Apollo missions have either been studied or are part of ongoing research at NASA. However, a number of samples were carefully stored and set aside to be tested with more advanced technology as it is developed.
I like this. As in, really like this. Leave something for when humanity gets smarter.

I know of some archeological digs run by that method - excavation stops at a pre-determined boundary, for when better methods are developed.
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Old 11-14-2019, 04:24 AM
 
Location: PRC
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Some Moon rock samples given to foreign presidents etc have been found to be not very Moon-ish and more Earth-ish ! One was a piece of prehistoric tree I seem to remember. Someone obviously trying to pull a fast one.

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I can understand how you would be a little peeved if you thought it was a unique piece of history and then you discovered it wasn't.

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Posted by CmdrTaco on Friday August 28, 2009 @10:11AM from the keep-yer-hands-off-my-treasure dept. Hugh Pickens writes "BBC reports that a treasured piece at the Dutch national museum — a supposed moon rock from the first manned lunar landing given to former Prime Minister Willem Drees during a goodwill tour by the three Apollo-11 astronauts shortly after their moon mission in 1969 — has been revealed as nothing more than petrified wood, curators say. A jagged fist-size stone with reddish tints, it was mounted and placed above a plaque that said, 'With the compliments of the Ambassador of the United States of America... to commemorate the visit to The Netherlands of the Apollo-11 astronauts.' The plaque does not specify that the rock came from the moon's surface. Researchers from Amsterdam's Free University said they could see at a glance the rock was probably not from the moon. They followed the initial appraisal up with extensive testing. 'It's a nondescript, pretty-much-worthless stone,' wrote Geologist Frank Beunk in an article published by the museum. Beunk says the rock, which the museum at one point insured for more than half a million dollars, was worth no more than $70. The 'rock' had originally been been vetted through a phone call to NASA. As the US Embassy in the Hague said it was investigating the matter, the Rijksmuseum says it will keep the piece as a curiosity."
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Old 11-14-2019, 04:42 AM
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Location: San Antonio/Houston/Tricity
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Well, let's assume that the samples stored by NASA are real. It's not that the returning astronauts could stop somewhere on the way back and pick fake samples.....
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Old 11-14-2019, 04:50 AM
 
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Yes, lets hope. However, the piece of tree was given by the astronauts on a PR tour and was 'authenticated' by a phone call to NASA apparently. It is strange that a mistake like this was made.

From the linked article...
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NASA will equip astronauts with new instruments and tools to study the moon for the Artemis missions in 2024. Ultimately, NASA hopes that all of this research will be used to prepare for the next phase of space exploration, which is sending astronauts to Mars.
They still want to focus on Mars and only give the Moon a passing cursory look. There is still an awful lot more science to be done by studying the Moon.
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Old 11-14-2019, 10:37 AM
 
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Nothing in that Dutch story makes sense. NASA has been extremely careful in tracking the lunar samples, arguably one of the costliest substances on Earth and one that would lose its scientific value if the chain of custody was broken or if carelessly handled. And they are, without excpetion, considered NASA property.

If you were to call NASA and say "Hey, I have an Apollo sample, could you verify it?", you'd have law enforcement knocking on your door to recover stolen goods.
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Old 11-14-2019, 11:53 PM
 
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we need to fund more manned missions into space


increase nasa's budget!
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Old Yesterday, 01:07 AM
 
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we need to fund more manned missions into space


increase nasa's budget!
At least it’s happening.
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Old Yesterday, 10:37 AM
 
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we need to fund more manned missions into space


increase nasa's budget!
Not until they stop being a conveyor belt for taxpayer funds into the old Shuttle supply line.

NASA's big-cash item right now is the boondoggle known as SLS, a rocket that has so far cost us $50 billion, hasn't flown yet, and - once it gets off the ground - is now estimated to cost a cool $2 billion per launch. But it has created a lot of jobs in the right Congressional districts.

Want to go the Moon? Contract the rockets to SpaceX and Blue Origin. Elon Musk is a right bastard, but his company builds rockets, not CAD/CAM renderings. While Boeing tinkers around with Space Shuttle main engines designed in the 1960s, SpaceX has gone and built Raptor, a methane-powered full-flow staged combustion engine. That's 21st century tech.
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