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Old 06-13-2010, 08:52 AM
 
Location: Las Flores, Orange County, CA
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If the universe is infinite then, the number of planets that exist is also infinite,
This isn't necessarily true. It is possible to have an infinite universe and a finite number of planets (at any one time).

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There are some things that simply are, if the universe is infinite.....

Therefore, God is a reality.
You lost me. You wrote a few sentences and then concluded god is a reality.

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But, somewhere on some planet there is a being that has the intellect to do things we would think magic.
How do you know?
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Old 06-13-2010, 09:18 AM
 
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This isn't necessarily true. It is possible to have an infinite universe and a finite number of planets (at any one time).

I disagree! Infinite means never ending and never beginning. Its like the saying "if you have enough money Ford will build you a Chevrolet". Enough is always enough and therefore, if it never ends neither does the possibilities, and that would necessarily work in both directions, past and future.

God is because my definition of God is different than yours!

I don't know! I suppose! I admit that I don't know! But I believe my reasoning is sound. If you have an argument that might alter my reasoning, give it.
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Old 06-13-2010, 10:18 AM
 
Location: Las Flores, Orange County, CA
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It is interesting that a city-data poster is certain it is impossible to have a finite number of planets.
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Old 06-13-2010, 11:40 AM
 
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Atheists don't hate something that doesn't have any evidence of existence. Some atheists view those who are spiritual as having a mental illness.
There is no place for calling people who don't agree with you names. It's childish and, factually incorrect.

People with mental illness are ones who are capable of harming themselves or others. Such people are usually confined to mental hospitals and treated. Now I am pretty sure some of your neighbors are religious people. Do they appear to be capable of harming themselves, their family, or you?

Calling people who don't agree with you names is not the way to do it.

This is a piece of US paper currency with the words "IN GOD WE TRUST" printed on it. Reflect on that for a moment.

http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg5/davidtr1/IMG_5003.jpg (broken link)

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Old 06-13-2010, 01:17 PM
 
Location: Interior Low Plateau
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There is no place for calling people who don't agree with you names. It's childish and, factually incorrect.

People with mental illness are ones who are capable of harming themselves or others. Such people are usually confined to mental hospitals and treated. Now I am pretty sure some of your neighbors are religious people. Do they appear to be capable of harming themselves, their family, or you?


Calling people who don't agree with you names is not the way to do it.

This is a piece of US paper currency with the words "IN GOD WE TRUST" printed on it. Reflect on that for a moment.
Wow!!! Rarely does one get to see someone, not only miss the boat, but also fall off the pier and drown in the sea of logic.

You might want to read up some common logical fallacies before sticking your foot in your mouth. That way you won't come across as such a clueless...

Fallacies
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Old 06-13-2010, 01:35 PM
 
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I must be missing something. The flow of conversation is not as my mind thinks it should be. Did someone referred to as "a city data poster" state that it is impossible for there to be an infinite number of planets? I didn't see it.

Also I don't see where Charles called anyone a name. Bring me up on these issues, please, so I will understand.

The photo of the one hundred dollar bill with the words "In God We Trust" on it, I believe proves how disingenuous we Americans are.

A couple of weeks ago a group of Witnesses came to my house and we talked for a few moments. The discussion reverted to politics and in the conversation I found out that they (Witnesses) don't vote in elections. They depend on God to do what is right for the country.

My problem is that one of them drove the car to my house.

I wonder what is the dividing point. At what point do they leave it to God? Apparently they don't trust him to drive their car(if they did they could all get in the back seat and just let God take them wherever he sees the need); However, they trust him to run the country.

If the Christians believe that when they die they will wake up in Heaven living a life of bliss, why are they not ready to go? let one get cancer and see if they want to go. Cancer brings prayer. Not that they leave, but that they be cured of the disease. They, even with their trust in God, seek the best in medical care. God would not need medicine. I seriously doubt that those espousing faith and trust, really have it.
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Old 06-13-2010, 02:33 PM
 
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Wow!!! Rarely does one get to see someone, not only miss the boat, but also fall off the pier and drown in the sea of logic.

You might want to read up some common logical fallacies before sticking your foot in your mouth. That way you won't come across as such a clueless...

Fallacies
You are the one who is clueless. Go learn something before you stick your foot in your mouth.

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Old 06-13-2010, 02:46 PM
 
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You are the one who is clueless. Go learn something before you stick your d*ck in your mouth.
If you can't be grown up enough to not post this type of filth we would all appreciate your finding a different place to spend your time...
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Old 06-13-2010, 02:49 PM
 
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Fine! Post edited! I didn't start the name calling.
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Old 06-13-2010, 03:13 PM
 
Location: Interior Low Plateau
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No one called you a name; merely pointing out that you are clueless, ignorant of logic, and construct vacuous arguments.

Those, sir, are points of fact clearly born out in the discussion. Take the time to read some of the logical errors in the link that I provided, then re-read your post #54; see the gaping holes in logic, now?
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