How many will give their special kid a flu shot? (handle, schools)
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I'm on another health group that has a very large MS group and just reading some of the posts on the pros and cons of vaccines and perhaps the trigger for their MS. Most on this thread said they will not get vaccines anymore. Many questioned the childhood vaccines they got. I'd say many got their MS symptoms in their 20's.
My sister got her first MS symptom in her early 20's and she did get her childhood vaccines and she lost the MS battle last year after a lot of struggling years.
No one knows for sure, but there is a lot of speculation from these people.
Look at the side effects listed in the vaccine insert, look at vaers, look at payouts from the vaccine court. Look at the growing body of research that shows that people who get annual flu shots are at greater risk of catching the flu in subsequent seasons.
The insert will list every condition reported while the vaccine was being tested, without regard to whether the condition was caused by the vaccine or not.
VAERS cannot prove causation. It is not meant to be able to do so.
The effects of vaccination on risk of flu in subsequent seasons appears to require a situation with a mismatched year of vaccine and use of the same vaccine two years in a row.
In the article researchers in the US did not find the same effects as those in Canada.
"'The effect of prior vaccination on VE is something we've been looking at but we still don't really understand the effects,' he said. 'The people who get vaccinated every year, they still get a significant benefit of vaccine. It varies from year to year, but on the whole, people who get vaccinated every year have less flu than those who don't.' "
By skipping the vaccine altogether you forgo protection for one or two years because of fear of less protection in a third year. That is hardly logical.
The vaccine court has compensated 2,714 influenza vaccine claims out of 1,372,400,000 doses of vaccine given since the compensation program began. That is a 0.0000019% chance of a serious adverse reaction to flu vaccine.
I'm on another health group that has a very large MS group and just reading some of the posts on the pros and cons of vaccines and perhaps the trigger for their MS.
Although there is no link between vaccines and MS.
I'm on another health group that has a very large MS group and just reading some of the posts on the pros and cons of vaccines and perhaps the trigger for their MS. Most on this thread said they will not get vaccines anymore. Many questioned the childhood vaccines they got. I'd say many got their MS symptoms in their 20's.
My sister got her first MS symptom in her early 20's and she did get her childhood vaccines and she lost the MS battle last year after a lot of struggling years.
No one knows for sure, but there is a lot of speculation from these people.
The insert will list every condition reported while the vaccine was being tested, without regard to whether the condition was caused by the vaccine or not.
VAERS cannot prove causation. It is not meant to be able to do so.
Well there you go, there is no place to get accurate up to date information so we weigh what we can and make decision based on what information we can find. Your decision is to get the vaccine. Mine is to not. I prefer to take care of my immune system in order to stay healthy utilizing nutrition and herbs. You choose to inject vaccines into your body in order to stay healthy. You won't ever be able to convince everyone that they need the vaccine. You are going to need to accept that.
Well there you go, there is no place to get accurate up to date information so we weigh what we can and make decision based on what information we can find. Your decision is to get the vaccine. Mine is to not. I prefer to take care of my immune system in order to stay healthy utilizing nutrition and herbs. You choose to inject vaccines into your body in order to stay healthy. You won't ever be able to convince everyone that they need the vaccine. You are going to need to accept that.
There is plenty of accurate up to date information on vaccines. The best internet sources are sites that end in .edu, .org, or .gov, not .com.
There is plenty of accurate up to date information on vaccines. ]
I've read a lot about flu vaccine and I am very confident in my decision to not get it. It was an informed decision. Please find someone else to argue with over their health decisions.
First paragraph from your link, which is hardly a scientific source in any event: "This year’s flu vaccine may not be as effective at protecting people against one of the most common, nasty strains of the flu. But that doesn’t mean you should forgo the shot." (Emphasis mine)
I've read a lot about this year's flu season. If you follow vaccines/communicable diseases, there's been a lot out lately. The 10% figure is what the efficacy of the H3N2 strain of the flu vaccine was in Australia. There are 3-4 strains of flu virus (killed) in every dose of vaccine, so saying 10% effective is misleading. Unfortunately, BI won't let me read the whole article b/c of my ad-blocker, but the link does say "get it anyway" so I'd guess the article closes with that. Australia is not the US. Australia has less flu vaccine uptake than the US, and which affects herd immunity. There are many reasons why their efficacy may not be our efficacy, and this is for one strain of the vaccine. It happens to be the strain going around currently, but oftentimes as the season goes on, B strains become more prominent. Also, that there are a lot of cases now doesn't mean that will be the case all winter. I've seen that before, where it's almost all over by the end of November.
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Originally Posted by MissTerri
Well there you go, there is no place to get accurate up to date information so we weigh what we can and make decision based on what information we can find. Your decision is to get the vaccine. Mine is to not. I prefer to take care of my immune system in order to stay healthy utilizing nutrition and herbs. You choose to inject vaccines into your body in order to stay healthy. You won't ever be able to convince everyone that they need the vaccine. You are going to need to accept that.
You are talking about something different than immunity to influenza. The only way to get immunity to it or any vaccine-preventable disease is to either get the disease or get the vaccine. . You may increase your resistance with a "healthy lifestyle" (not so sure about the herbs), but there is no way herbs and nutrition give you any immunity to any specific disease.
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Originally Posted by MissTerri
I've read a lot about flu vaccine and I am very confident in my decision to not get it. It was an informed decision. Please find someone else to argue with over their health decisions.
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