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Old 12-03-2017, 12:01 PM
 
Location: New Yawk
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He wasn't vaccinated at all until after his 3rd birthday?
Correct. He was diagnosed at 3, and got his first vaccinations at age 6. Ironically, because I was terrified of autism.
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Old 12-03-2017, 12:24 PM
 
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Since the flu vaccine is said to only be around 10% effective this year I'd say that it's not worth the risk.
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Old 12-03-2017, 12:36 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Since the flu vaccine is said to only be around 10% effective this year I'd say that it's not worth the risk.
What do you perceive the risk to be?
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Old 12-03-2017, 12:50 PM
 
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Personally I haven't done a vaccine in 30 yrs or so and as far as the baby vaccines, I had my one and only to go to first grade.

Amazing how so many are so SURE these vaccines have nothing to do with autism.

What is then?

For flu prevention and colds etc I work with alternatives to keep my system strong and healthy...living in a warm climate we also have change in weather...since it's gotten colder lately, I'm taking some echinacea daily to keep from a cold.

Trust the CDC, FDA, EPA...nah. These agencies approve drugs that give us a lot of side effects and that's an understatement.

I trusted what doctors said to be gospel into the 80's and that's when I started to question it all. And worked to be my own doctor as much as I could.

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Old 12-03-2017, 01:07 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Personally I haven't done a vaccine in 30 yrs or so and as far as the baby vaccines, I had my one and only to go to first grade.

Amazing how so many are so SURE these vaccines have nothing to do with autism.

What is then?

For flu prevention and colds etc I work with alternatives to keep my system strong and healthy...living in a warm climate we also have change in weather...since it's gotten colder lately, I'm taking some echinacea daily to keep from a cold.

Trust the CDC, FDA, EPA...nah. These agencies approve drugs that give us a lot of side effects and that's an understatement.
Yes, they are sure, because there is a mountain of scientific evidence showing children who are vaccinated are no more likely to have autism than children who are not vaccinated.

There is also an growing mountain of evidence that autism is a complex genetic condition that is present at birth, with symptoms commonly presenting at the same ages that vaccines are given.

Echinacea and colds:

https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/ech...-cold-and-flu/

Herbal products are not without side effects.

https://www.drugs.com/sfx/echinacea-side-effects.html
  • nausea, vomiting, stomach pain, diarrhea;
  • fever, sore throat;
  • muscle or joint pain;
  • unusual or unpleasant taste in the mouth;
  • dry mouth, numb feeling in your tongue;
  • headache, dizziness, confusion; or
  • sleep problems (insomnia).
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Old 12-03-2017, 01:22 PM
 
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For flu prevention and colds etc I work with alternatives to keep my system strong and healthy.
Me too. Vitamin C, Vitamin D during flu season and elderberry syrup, oil or oregano at first sign of cold or flu.
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Old 12-03-2017, 01:45 PM
 
Location: So Ca
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Amazing how so many are so SURE these vaccines have nothing to do with autism.

What is then?
https://www.autismspeaks.org/science...m-gene-changes

Autism and genetics | Understanding Genetics
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Old 12-03-2017, 01:48 PM
 
Location: So Ca
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Since the flu vaccine is said to only be around 10% effective this year I'd say that it's not worth the risk.
While vaccine effectiveness can vary, recent studies show that flu vaccination reduces the risk of flu illness by between 40% and 60% among the overall population during seasons when most circulating flu viruses are well-matched to the flu vaccine:

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/qa/vaccineeffect.htm
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Old 12-03-2017, 01:55 PM
 
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While vaccine effectiveness can vary, recent studies show that flu vaccination reduces the risk of flu illness by between 40% and 60% among the overall population during seasons when most circulating flu viruses are well-matched to the flu vaccine:

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/qa/vaccineeffect.htm
Effectiveness does vary. This year (2017-2018 flu season) the vaccine is expected to be 10% effective. It is not well matched this year. This has been reported in the mainstream news.

The odds of getting the flu are 5% to 20% in any given year. If you get the flu vaccine this year your odds will range from 4.5% to 18% if in fact, the 10% effectiveness is correct.
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Old 12-03-2017, 02:06 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Effectiveness does vary. This year (2017-2018 flu season) the vaccine is expected to be 10% effective. It is not well matched this year. This has been reported in the mainstream news.

The odds of getting the flu are 5% to 20% in any given year. If you get the flu vaccine this year your odds will range from 4.5% to 18% if in fact, the 10% effectiveness is correct.
The vaccine is less effective for one of the strains but could provide better than 10% effectiveness for the other two or three.

However, even a 10% decrease results in a large decrease in the absolute number of cases nationwide, especially if this is a year with a large number of cases, which is also being predicted. In addition, vaccinated people who do get the flu tend to get less sick. I know an infectious disease expert who says that he is only interested in keeping flu victims out of his ICU, and the vaccine helps do that.

Why not vaccinate and use whatever alt med nostrums you want to?

What complications from flu vaccine are you afraid of?
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