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The science agrees with me. This is not an issue of "Is red prettier than blue?" It is an issue of "Does water flow uphill or down?"
Sorry but that's inaccurate.
I don't know about ALL science as that is pretty broad but here's one such example that is not in agreement with your statement. Vitamin D, C, A and Magnesium are a few that top the list in terms of deficiencies here in the US. https://www.ewg.org/research/how-muc...s#.WjCG8oWcHIU
Sorry but that's inaccurate.
I don't know about ALL science as that is pretty broad but here's one such example that is not in agreement with your statement. Vitamin D, C, A and Magnesium are a few that top the list in terms of deficiencies here in the US. https://www.ewg.org/research/how-muc...s#.WjCG8oWcHIU
What does that have to do with immunity to flu or any other disease?
See this: https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-l...s/art-20044894 "The Dietary Guidelines for Americans states that your nutritional needs should be met primarily through your diet. But the guidelines go on to say that for some people, supplements may be a useful way to get nutrients they might otherwise lack. . . If you're generally healthy and eat a wide variety of foods, including fruits, vegetables, whole grains, legumes, low-fat dairy products, lean meats and fish, you likely don't need supplements."
My allowable three sentences.
Even your own link from a dubious source says: "Some American adults get too little vitamin D, vitamin E, magnesium, calcium, vitamin A and vitamin C (Table B1). . . Inadequate intake of vitamins and minerals is most common among 14-to-18-year-old teenagers. Adolescent girls have lower nutrient intake than boys (Berner 2014; Fulgoni 2011)." (Emphasis mine) Again, my allowable three.
The SciAm article, now 8 years old says "But Mary France Picciano, a senior nutrition scientist in the National Institutes of Health's Office of Dietary Supplements, is skeptical that the dip is as deep or widespread as suggested, noting that there's disagreement on how much vitamin D is needed. . . That earlier study, co-authored by Picciano, also found that vitamin D deficiency had become more common between the late 1980s and 2004, but that between half and 75 percent of that difference was due to changes in the test used to measure those blood levels and therefore wasn’t a true gauge. "The results are far overstated and their findings are not as accurate as ours," Picciano says."
One of the doctors I worked with said that Vitamin D recommendations change frequently. He didn't think much of supplementing for it.
What does that have to do with immunity to flu or any other disease?
See this: https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-l...s/art-20044894 "The Dietary Guidelines for Americans states that your nutritional needs should be met primarily through your diet. But the guidelines go on to say that for some people, supplements may be a useful way to get nutrients they might otherwise lack. . . If you're generally healthy and eat a wide variety of foods, including fruits, vegetables, whole grains, legumes, low-fat dairy products, lean meats and fish, you likely don't need supplements."
My allowable three sentences.
Even your own link from a dubious source says: "Some American adults get too little vitamin D, vitamin E, magnesium, calcium, vitamin A and vitamin C (Table B1). . . Inadequate intake of vitamins and minerals is most common among 14-to-18-year-old teenagers. Adolescent girls have lower nutrient intake than boys (Berner 2014; Fulgoni 2011)." (Emphasis mine) Again, my allowable three.
My link was in response to your inaccurate statements concerning nutrition, nutritional deficiencies and supplements. I've been tested by my doctor for deficiencies and in spite of a healthy diet I do need to supplement with a few things such as Vitamin D. As you can see by the links I shared, my experience is not unusual. I also shared a link with some specific supplements that can help if one does get the flu. Just because you don't see any value in taking supplements, does not mean that they are worthless nor does it mean that all of the science supports your view.
KW...glad I don't know that doctor. Vit D deficiency is HUGE in this country and other countries as well except below the equator.
I mentioned MS at a point and my sister brought this Vit D issue to me in 2006 and I was feeling somewhat LOW at that time and sure enough major D deficiency. My sister is gone now -- lost the MS battle.
My link was in response to your inaccurate statements concerning nutrition, nutritional deficiencies and supplements. I've been tested by my doctor for deficiencies and in spite of a healthy diet I do need to supplement with a few things such as Vitamin D. As you can see by the links I shared, my experience is not unusual. I also shared a link with some specific supplements that can help if one does get the flu. Just because you don't see any value in taking supplements, does not mean that they are worthless nor does it mean that all of the science supports your view.
Let me guess, you were tested by a chiropractor?
Scientific American is not a professional journal. The article goes back and forth "on the other hand. . ." stuff.
It appears you didn't bother to read your first link. Nor did you read the articles that I shared. Your second link is very limited in terms of what the article chooses to discuss. We could post articles all day back and forth on this but why? There is science supporting both alternative and mainstream medicine when it comes to the flu so do what works for you and others can do what works for them. There really is no reason to argue over this.
Millions.........The (rough) number of Americans who could be spared the flu by getting a flu shot, even if the vaccine’s effectiveness is somewhere between 30% and 60%. Vaccination would also prevent tens of thousands of flu-related hospitalizations.
No dear, as I clearly stated, my doctor tested me. An MD.
It appears you didn't bother to read your first link. Nor did you read the articles that I shared. Your second link is very limited in terms of what the article chooses to discuss. We could post articles all day back and forth on this but why? There is science supporting both alternative and mainstream medicine when it comes to the flu so do what works for you and others can do what works for them. There really is no reason to argue over this.
OK, so your MD recommended Vitamin D supplements, probably for your bones. That's not "alternative medicine". Real doctors don't forgo vitamins when they are appropriate, unlike "alternative doctors" who eschew drugs and science based medicine such as vaccines.
There is very little science supporting alternative medicine re: flu. There's a saying in health care, "alternative medicine that works is called. . . medicine!" Most of the articles from reputable websites, e.g. universities, medical centers, etc (note I did not say pharmaceutical companies) about complementary medicine for flu say to get the flu shot. To repeat, it's not "Is red a prettier color than blue?"
I've been ignoring your little barbs, but I do find it amusing that you accuse me of arguing when you keep answering AND bringing up new topics. You're right, this thread isn't about alternative medicine, except perhaps as it applies to flu.
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