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Old 09-19-2019, 08:15 PM
 
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It would be a tough sell, though.

“Okay, folks. We all know you want to leave sunny Cali and all our free bennies. How about a one-way ticket to Spokane, with its freezing, gloomy, snowy winter and a city government that can’t find its own hindquarters with both hands?”

<crickets>
Oh, Cali would have to give them more than a bus ticket. There would have to be some actual cash involved.

As well a promotional scheme. But, hey, Cali has got Hollywood.
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Old 09-19-2019, 08:31 PM
 
Location: WA Desert, Seattle native
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Have we all lost our minds here?

Homeless people are not sheep and can’t be transported like cattle. The problem goes well beyond moving them to another area. We are dealing with mentally ill people and drug addiction for about 98 percent of this population. Shipping them out with incentives does absolutely nothing to solve the problem.
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Old 09-19-2019, 11:13 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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It's somewhat ironic that is was Reagan who decided it was a good idea to shut down all the mental institutions, thus forcing so many mentally ill people out onto the streets, while it was his own state of California that was hardest hit and has now turned into a cesspool. Poetic justice in a way, I suppose.
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Old 09-19-2019, 11:42 PM
 
Location: WA Desert, Seattle native
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Also note that there is little talk about this issue from The White House. Instead, just penalizing California for having so many who are polluting the area with syringes, etc. While the POTUS continues to get rid of environmental laws that have been in place for decades. What a double standard.

https://www.salon.com/2019/09/19/tru...-homelessness/
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Old 09-20-2019, 03:08 AM
 
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If you would like to further entertain yourself, we have a 700+ page thread in the Los Angeles forum dedicated to this exact topic.

A suggestion was made that the homeless in downtown LA be bused out to an empty tract of land in the Mojave Desert, and left to their own faculties there....among bazillions of other suggestions.

The thread will keep you tied up for weeks.
But that's so inhumane... It was probably suggested by Spokane transplants, no true Califronian would ever even think of something so terrible. If they let homeless leave, whom will they share their love and compassion with?

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Have we all lost our minds here?

Homeless people are not sheep and can’t be transported like cattle. The problem goes well beyond moving them to another area. We are dealing with mentally ill people and drug addiction for about 98 percent of this population. Shipping them out with incentives does absolutely nothing to solve the problem.
Yes, but neither of those problems is curable, or even treatable in the long term. They all come back to it within months, if not weeks. Also, it's really insensitive and arrogant to suggest they're sick, because they're not. It's like in 1950s they tried to cure gayness. And now look, same sex people are marrying each other and noone finds anything wrong with that, we realize we were too close-minded back in the day... It's the same with homeless people. They should just become a "minority" and enjoy all the equal rights. I think progressive state like California should be the pioneer of this. And make a discrimination against them illegal. Say, if a homeless person with maggot infested open wounds walks into a restaurant looking for a job, they should immediately put him in the kitchen. I'm sure Californians can overlook a few minor flaws in these wonderful people in the name of Love.
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Old 09-20-2019, 09:30 AM
 
Location: West Coast
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Have we all lost our minds here?

Homeless people are not sheep and can’t be transported like cattle. The problem goes well beyond moving them to another area. We are dealing with mentally ill people and drug addiction for about 98 percent of this population. Shipping them out with incentives does absolutely nothing to solve the problem.
Thank you!
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Old 09-20-2019, 12:05 PM
 
Location: Near Manito
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Some of us have addressed this topic with black humor, which has gone over the heads of a few other posters. Too bad.

Seriously — there is no ‘solution’ to the problem. It became insoluble when we stopped calling these people bums and dignified them with the term “homeless.” Frankly, calling many of these people “homeless” is like calling a vegetarian “meatless.” They have chosen their lifestyle and prefer the company of people like themselves. All of the well-meaning efforts to throw money at the situation has done nothing but exacerbate it.

The only question that can be addressed rationally is whether we want to share our daily lives with these addicts, psychopaths, and bums. If we do, then by all means encourage them and make it more likely that their numbers will increase and that they will continue to infest our cities like bedbugs in a flophouse. If we don’t, transporting them to locales whose government is more delusional than Spokane’s is the only alternative that makes sense.

Incidentally, I have noted several times that a small cluster of bums has staked out a territory near the corner of 29th and Grand Boulevard, at the edge of a supermarket parking lot, replete with the ubiquitous blue plastic tarps, trash, dogs, cardboard signs begging for money, etc. This population is no longer confined to downtown Spokane. It is metastasizing. And making our city a more welcoming place for these folks will inevitably result in spreading them into our residential neighborhoods. This may not trouble some of the people in this thread, but it troubles me.
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Old 09-20-2019, 12:09 PM
 
Location: Lake Coeur D’Alene
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Great. California is already taking care of 50% of the nations homeless and you want to send more their way instead of dealing with your own problems? I'll bet you're a conservative. You sound like one. They complain about liberals spending money to fix problems and then when they have a problem of their own they just kick the can down the road and let others pay. Way to go.

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Have we all lost our minds here?
Homeless people are not sheep and can’t be transported like cattle. The problem goes well beyond moving them to another area. We are dealing with mentally ill people and drug addiction for about 98 percent of this population. Shipping them out with incentives does absolutely nothing to solve the problem.
Maybe I’m way off base but I’m fairly certain that Mounty was writing “tongue in cheek” when he posted his great idea. His follow up posts seemed the same way.

So don’t get yourselves too wrapped around the axel. No one is sending the poor, beleaguered homeless people anywhere. But they are a bit of annoyance to the folks who actually live here. Maybe the both of you’d like to come visit our city and use a pooper scooper on the public sidewalks and help pick up needles in the parks?
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Old 09-20-2019, 12:16 PM
 
Location: Lake Coeur D’Alene
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Some of us have addressed this topic with black humor, which has gone over the heads of a few other posters. Too bad.

Seriously — there is no ‘solution’ to the problem. It became insoluble when we stopped calling these people bums and dignified them with the term “homeless.” Frankly, calling many of these people “homeless” is like calling a vegetarian “meatless.” They have chosen their lifestyle and prefer the company of people like themselves. All of the well-meaning efforts to throw money at the situation has done nothing but exacerbate it.

The only question that can be addressed rationally is whether we want to share our daily lives with these addicts, psychopaths, and bums. If we do, then by all means encourage them and make it more likely that their numbers will increase and that they will continue to infest our cities like bedbugs in a flophouse. If we don’t, transporting them to locales whose government is more delusional than Spokane’s is the only alternative that makes sense.

Incidentally, I have noted several times that a small cluster of bums has staked out a territory near the corner of 29th and Grand Boulevard, at the edge of a supermarket parking lot, replete with the ubiquitous blue plastic tarps, trash, dogs, cardboard signs begging for money, etc. This population is no longer confined to downtown Spokane. It is metastasizing. And making our city a more welcoming place for these folks will inevitably result in spreading them into our residential neighborhoods. This may not trouble some of the people in this thread, but it troubles me.
It troubles me too.
Have you read posts on Nextdoor about camps in Comstock Park by the playground?
Camps in alleys behind houses.
One lady went out to get her paper and found a drunk or drugged out woman rolled in a tarp, asleep on her lawn.
My daughter won’t take my grandkids to the library downtown because of the bums sprawled out in the children’s section. The druggies shooting up in the stacks because of the blue lights they installed in the bathrooms so they can’t find a vein.

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Old 09-20-2019, 07:26 PM
 
Location: WA Desert, Seattle native
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Some of us have addressed this topic with black humor, which has gone over the heads of a few other posters. Too bad.

Seriously — there is no ‘solution’ to the problem. It became insoluble when we stopped calling these people bums and dignified them with the term “homeless.” Frankly, calling many of these people “homeless” is like calling a vegetarian “meatless.” They have chosen their lifestyle and prefer the company of people like themselves. All of the well-meaning efforts to throw money at the situation has done nothing but exacerbate it.

The only question that can be addressed rationally is whether we want to share our daily lives with these addicts, psychopaths, and bums. If we do, then by all means encourage them and make it more likely that their numbers will increase and that they will continue to infest our cities like bedbugs in a flophouse. If we don’t, transporting them to locales whose government is more delusional than Spokane’s is the only alternative that makes sense.

Incidentally, I have noted several times that a small cluster of bums has staked out a territory near the corner of 29th and Grand Boulevard, at the edge of a supermarket parking lot, replete with the ubiquitous blue plastic tarps, trash, dogs, cardboard signs begging for money, etc. This population is no longer confined to downtown Spokane. It is metastasizing. And making our city a more welcoming place for these folks will inevitably result in spreading them into our residential neighborhoods. This may not trouble some of the people in this thread, but it troubles me.
Well, I can understand that response. However, some on here don't understand that so-called "black humor" is easily misunderstood on such forums. Kind of like telling a dirty joke online as compared to in-person. It is all about the context, and the written form sometimes loses that context.
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