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Old 08-09-2012, 01:23 PM
 
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I don't think it is the same at all. After all, over the past hundreds of thousands of years nature has pretty much gotten rid of ugliness via selection. When I walk through the pedestrian zone, I see lots of beautiful people but hardly any if any ugly people. Nature has always preferred beautiful people, that's why an insult is not the same as a compliment. When you tell someone they are ugly, it is not just the opposite of telling someone they are beautiful, it is an utterance of much greater amplitude as there are so few ugly people and nobody wants to be one of them. When you tell someone they are beautiful, it doesn't really mean much as there are so many beautiful people and they know it.
After all, beauty is not at all just subjective, studies have shown that it can be objectively evaluated and that there is a kind of standard in society that almost all of society agrees on without even knowing it.
That old beholder saying is a myth...
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Old 08-09-2012, 03:14 PM
 
Location: Fife
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Lets get back to the hot tennis players!
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Old 08-09-2012, 03:53 PM
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Location: Bel Air, California
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Lets get back to the hot tennis players!
Bar Refaeli

Bar Refaeli playing tennis in underwear - under.me Promo Commercial - YouTube
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Old 08-09-2012, 04:09 PM
 
Location: The "Rock"
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beauty is not at all just subjective, studies have shown that it can be objectively evaluated
Show us a credible study saying this, in other words prove it please...
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Old 08-09-2012, 07:22 PM
 
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Show us a credible study saying this, in other words prove it please...
Does it really take a scientist to prove that Anna and Maria are more beautiful than the William sisters?

Does it really take a chef to say that steak tastes better than mud?
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Old 08-09-2012, 09:19 PM
 
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Does it really take a scientist to prove that Anna and Maria are more beautiful than the William sisters?

Does it really take a chef to say that steak tastes better than mud?
That's not what I am questioning... Learn to read before jumping into the middle of a convo.

I said the Williams sisters were ugly...
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Old 08-10-2012, 07:33 AM
 
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Show us a credible study saying this, in other words prove it please...
Credible, well, you won't believe what you don't want to believe, anyway. Still, feel free to read this:
Secrets of Beauty and Attractiveness Revealed

There are quite a number of scientific studies on beauty, they all come to similar results.
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Old 08-10-2012, 08:13 AM
 
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Credible, well, you won't believe what you don't want to believe, anyway. Still, feel free to read this:
Secrets of Beauty and Attractiveness Revealed

There are quite a number of scientific studies on beauty, they all come to similar results.
This study does not prove that beauty is not in the eye of the beholder... It proves that attractivev people like each other. that they make more money... It doesn't prove that beauty is NOT subjective, which is what you claim. Beautify is not measurable or quantitative. It is subjective. Your environment, your morals, your own ideaology shapes your view of beauty. Therefore by contrast it shapes your idea of ugly. Which to circle back to my original point... The Williams sisters are ugly no matter what studies you have. Period.
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Old 08-10-2012, 08:18 AM
 
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I said the Williams sisters were ugly...
I always thought Serena was attractive.
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Old 08-10-2012, 08:45 AM
 
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This study does not prove that beauty is not in the eye of the beholder... It proves that attractivev people like each other. that they make more money... It doesn't prove that beauty is NOT subjective, which is what you claim. Beautify is not measurable or quantitative. It is subjective. Your environment, your morals, your own ideaology shapes your view of beauty. Therefore by contrast it shapes your idea of ugly. Which to circle back to my original point... The Williams sisters are ugly no matter what studies you have. Period.
I wonder if you even read the entire link, or read and understood it They say exactly what you say they don't say

And no matter how often you repeat it, your thinking the Williams sisters are ugly is just your opinion, nothing more. There are always some people whose tastes (whether true or for whatever reason just pretended) are outside the norm, but they don't change the norm, the standard perception and verdict of society as a whole. The Williams sisters are certainly not nearly as beautiful as Gabrielle Union, but that doesn't mean they are ugly, they are average.

Of course it is not their fault, but some disfigured people are pretty much the only ugly people I have seen. For many people ugly people are hard to look at, and they make you feel like you don't want to be seen together with them, they make you feel uncomfortable.
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