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Old 10-22-2012, 08:12 AM
 
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Now that every one is happy about throwing Lance Armstrong under the bus maybe we can look for more American hero's to trash, how about that Michael Phelps? 22 Olympic medals? yeah right.doped all the way i say.
And how about that Tiger Woods? ya dont get muscle development like his by just playing golf, another candidate for being on the juice.
Actually looking up American sport heros on Google doesnt come up with much.

This it? http://www.usa-hero.com/athletic.html
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Old 10-22-2012, 08:29 AM
 
Location: Cook County
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People that I know that are passionately anti-lance do not often talk about his drug use. It's about his dishonesty, cover ups and apparently being quite a jerk in real life to the people around him.

Stories of him paying people off, strong arming (no pun intended) people into silence, calling other people liars who have been proven to be true etc.

Clinging to the arguement that he 'doped in a dirty sport so its ok,' is really missing the point of the criticism.
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Old 10-22-2012, 09:42 AM
 
Location: Chicago area
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Yet another example of how the moral fiber of society has eroded. I'm sure he's laughing all the way to the bank. With this every man for himself mentality that exists today I'm wondering how many of us would do the same thing if we were in his shoes?
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Old 10-22-2012, 03:41 PM
 
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Now that every one is happy about throwing Lance Armstrong under the bus maybe we can look for more American hero's to trash, how about that Michael Phelps? 22 Olympic medals? yeah right.doped all the way i say.
And how about that Tiger Woods? ya dont get muscle development like his by just playing golf, another candidate for being on the juice.
Actually looking up American sport heros on Google doesnt come up with much.

This it? American Athletic Heroes Page 1 | USA Hero
Heroes don't cheat

They're called "a hero" because they overcome adversity, work hard, do beneficial things for their sport and community.

1000 page report, Hamilton, hincapie, leipheimer, Vande Velde, Matt White, and the rest are all lying? Come on.

You feel bad for a cheat.
I feel bad for the sport, the honest riders, and those who were intimidated into cheating - to have the warped "honour" of riding with a doping drug cheat.
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Old 10-23-2012, 04:13 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Default Armstrong belongs in the Hall of Shame

Armstrong is a cheater and a liar as others have said. He deserves no more respect than Ben Johnson. He's a nobody and he certainly is no hero.
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Old 10-23-2012, 09:43 AM
 
Location: Kansas City, MO
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It's not that he cheated, it's that he ran a doping ring and forced other riders to dope and intimadated them into both doing it and covering it up. He also threatened other riders and their families about not coming out about it.
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Old 10-23-2012, 07:32 PM
 
Location: Pacific Northwest
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He lost his 7 Tour titles, sponsorships, reputation, and the worst of all: he got kicked out of Average Joe's Gym.
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Old 10-23-2012, 11:02 PM
 
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Lance Armstrong is all too human. Like the rest of us, he's both a hero and a sonofab*tch. I agree that he should be stripped of his titles. Going after his millions seems a touch harsh at a time like this, but then again, people never would have paid him his stash if he had been just an ordinary guy. Fraud is fraud, I reckon. There are consequences. On some level, I'm sure he's a decent human being - seems like it. But he got caught up in the doping culture of professional sport, and now he's paying the price of risking his sport's credibility.
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Old 10-23-2012, 11:03 PM
 
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He lost his 7 Tour titles, sponsorships, reputation, and the worst of all: he got kicked out of Average Joe's Gym.
Yes, he lost 7 titles, but so did professional cycling. That's the reality here. He's not the only one who has damages to repay. There are now 7 years of Tour de France that simply don't exist because of Lance Armstrong. That being said, I do agree, that the sport of cycling is never going to be dope-free. I have no idea how they can possibly begin to clean it up. I don't think the cycling commissions have any ideas either.
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Old 10-24-2012, 12:14 AM
 
Location: Pacific Northwest
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Yes, he lost 7 titles, but so did professional cycling. That's the reality here. He's not the only one who has damages to repay. There are now 7 years of Tour de France that simply don't exist because of Lance Armstrong.
Right, I didn't realize that. I guess now the answer to the question of
What does World War I, World War II, and Lance Armstrong have in common, is that there were no Tour de France winners in those years.
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