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Old 05-23-2013, 04:46 PM
 
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Think about it. They are both one hit wonder and they both have been to few Grand Slam finals.
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Old 05-23-2013, 10:29 PM
 
Location: Silver Spring, MD/Washington DC
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Andy Murray is a better player in his era than Michael Chang was in his IMO. Actually, Murray is probably the best men's player ever to have won only one Grand Slam final. I expect he'll have 3-4 Grand Slam championships in his career by the time he's done.
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Old 05-24-2013, 01:35 AM
 
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I once saw Michael Chang warm up at the Maze Cup. A competition between the best Juniors in norcal versus socal. He warmed up hitting perfect, absolutely perfect 1 handed backhands. And then he played the match with his regular 2 hander. He destroyed the kid he played, I can't recall his name. It was a year or 2 before he won the French, he was playing U16's.

I think Murray is a little bit more offensive minded than Chang was. Though both were excellent scramblers and counter-punchers. Will have to see where Murray ends up at the end of his career for a full and fair competition.
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Old 05-24-2013, 03:27 AM
 
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Boy you are a child are you lol. Worry about the state of your own countries men's tennis. Why do you feel the need to tarnish the reputation of Murray to about a DOZEN people on an Internet forum? If you don't rate h why do you constantly post about him! Simple fact is Murray has been number two in the world twice in the best ever era of men's tennis.
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Old 05-24-2013, 12:14 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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I once saw Michael Chang warm up at the Maze Cup. A competition between the best Juniors in norcal versus socal. He warmed up hitting perfect, absolutely perfect 1 handed backhands. And then he played the match with his regular 2 hander. He destroyed the kid he played, I can't recall his name. It was a year or 2 before he won the French, he was playing U16's.
It may have been Pete Sampras. Chang was like 23-0 against Sampras or something ridiculous like that. He pwned him as a junior.

That success didn't translate so well on the pro tour, however.

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I think Murray is a little bit more offensive minded than Chang was. Though both were excellent scramblers and counter-punchers. Will have to see where Murray ends up at the end of his career for a full and fair competition.
He's not a "little bit" more offensive minded than Chang. They are completely different players. Chang was a speedy, consistent counterpuncher that had slightly more offensive firepower than the average pusher. His game was about speed, consistency and mental tenacity. Chang just lacked the physical tools to win multiple slams. But boy did he have have the heart.

Murray is a shotmaker above and beyond all else. He's shown great mental fragility in the past though he has improved that aspect of his game dramatically. He's quick to tee off on second serves which Chang was never really known for. He's got a bit of variety to his game. In fact, the early criticism of Murray was that he had too much variety and could not make up his damned mind on the shots he wanted/needed to play. He's clearly gotten over this (or so it seems) and has also elevated his fitness game to get on par with Nadal and Djokovic.

Over the past two years, Murray has mimicked Djokovic more than anyone else. That's a bit unfortunate, imo, as we really don't see the full versatility of his game as much anymore.
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Old 05-24-2013, 03:47 PM
 
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But he has won a slam and the Olympics so he is doing something right. Federer said Murray is one of the toughest opponents he has come across, high praise from the best ever.
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Old 05-24-2013, 04:11 PM
 
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But he has won a slam and the Olympics so he is doing something right. Federer said Murray is one of the toughest opponents he has come across, high praise from the best ever.
First of all, comparing Murray to Chang is not an insult. Change was a very good player who reached Grand Slam finals and won one of them, so did Murray.

Secondly, tennis Olympics was no big deal back then. Many famous players didn't even bother participating in it. Furthermore, it's a three set kind of game, very similiar to non-Grand Slam tours. Big freaking deal.
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Old 05-25-2013, 04:32 AM
 
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I enjoyed it
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Old 05-27-2013, 05:23 PM
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Chang was also smaller than Murray.....Murray should have a more successful career with no excuses....he also only has the Joker and to a certain extent, Nadal to deal with....Fed is on the decline.....Chang played when there were better players on the tour too.
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Old 05-28-2013, 07:39 AM
 
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Chang was also smaller than Murray.....Murray should have a more successful career with no excuses....he also only has the Joker and to a certain extent, Nadal to deal with....Fed is on the decline.....Chang played when there were better players on the tour too.
So that means that a declining Federer is better than a peak Murray.
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