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Old 08-17-2016, 02:35 PM
 
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It is off topic but I think there should be no age limit.
If a 14 year old can compete, let her compete. We all know these girls started training at a very young age, so there is no point to let them wait if they are good enough,

 
Old 08-17-2016, 02:57 PM
 
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It is off topic but I think there should be no age limit.
If a 14 year old can compete, let her compete. We all know these girls started training at a very young age, so there is no point to let them wait if they are good enough,
well, basically when a hand of western countries decide it is too young, then it is too young.
 
Old 08-17-2016, 03:35 PM
 
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well, basically when a hand of western countries decide it is too young, then it is too young.
Yes, we have this silly concern with the health of children -- unlike some bloated, overpopulated, collectivist dictatorships I could name, where they burn coal for heat and continue to manufacture steam locomotives, dump chemical waste openly into the rivers, and employ tens of millions of children in sweatshops and factories with little or no safety or environmental standards.

Just because such countries were late joining the modern world, is no excuse for their repeating the worst abuses of the Industrial Revolution in the twenty-first century.

So yes. Children are not slaves. Pretty basic concept...
 
Old 08-17-2016, 03:43 PM
 
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Yes, we have this silly concern with the health of children -- unlike some bloated, overpopulated, collectivist dictatorships I could name, where they burn coal for heat and continue to manufacture steam locomotives, dump chemical waste openly into the rivers, and employ tens of millions of children in sweatshops and factories with little or no safety or environmental standards.

Just because such countries were late joining the modern world, is no excuse for their repeating the worst abuses of the Industrial Revolution in the twenty-first century.

So yes. Children are not slaves. Pretty basic concept...
What a stupid comment. Sometimes the hatred and bias against China are hilarious.

You think American girls are not trained since very young?

China has a one child policy and these girls are very likely to be their parents' only child, and I am sure they are treasured in their family too.
 
Old 08-17-2016, 04:06 PM
 
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What a stupid comment. Sometimes the hatred and bias against China are hilarious.

You think American girls are not trained since very young?

China has a one child policy and these girls are very likely to be their parents' only child, and I am sure they are treasured in their family too.
No hatred; no bias. And no hilarity. There is nothing in my post that is not literally true. I have lived and worked in China and seen these things with my own two eyes. Tell me: If you treasure your children so, why do you want to take away their childhood and make them employees of the state? You've got nearly a billion and a half people, after all. Surely observing standards of common decency regarding children is not too much to ask...
 
Old 08-17-2016, 05:11 PM
 
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No hatred; no bias. And no hilarity. There is nothing in my post that is not literally true. I have lived and worked in China and seen these things with my own two eyes. Tell me: If you treasure your children so, why do you want to take away their childhood and make them employees of the state? You've got nearly a billion and a half people, after all. Surely observing standards of common decency regarding children is not too much to ask...
We Chinese (and other East Asians) believe in hard work since childhood. It is VERY COMMON for normal teenagers to study over 10 hours a day.
In high school, studying over 12 hours a day without weekends is normal too.

So although these young athletes had a hard childhood, it is nothing weird. And they can enjoy their earlier achievement later in their life.
 
Old 08-17-2016, 07:05 PM
 
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We Chinese (and other East Asians) believe in hard work since childhood. It is VERY COMMON for normal teenagers to study over 10 hours a day.
In high school, studying over 12 hours a day without weekends is normal too.

So although these young athletes had a hard childhood, it is nothing weird. And they can enjoy their earlier achievement later in their life.
I don't blame you for not addressing my previous post, and going in a different direction. You have no reply.

No one believes young people shouldn't study or work hard. But only you seem to believe they should be slaves of their government -- which is sadly logical, given your collectivist world-view.
 
Old 08-17-2016, 07:49 PM
 
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We Chinese (and other East Asians) believe in hard work since childhood. It is VERY COMMON for normal teenagers to study over 10 hours a day.
In high school, studying over 12 hours a day without weekends is normal too.

So although these young athletes had a hard childhood, it is nothing weird. And they can enjoy their earlier achievement later in their life.
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I don't blame you for not addressing my previous post, and going in a different direction. You have no reply.

No one believes young people shouldn't study or work hard. But only you seem to believe they should be slaves of their government -- which is sadly logical, given your collectivist world-view.
i am not going to disparage the asian point of view in childhood development, as it is a cultural issue as much as anything else. and it works for them very nicely thank you.

that said, i do believe that there does need to be a lower age limit for participation in the olympics, and i think 14-15 should be the heard lower limit. as long as the parents can prove their child is at least the minimum age to participate, then i have no issues.

it is natural for some people to look much younger than they actually are, and asian women are the rule on that.
 
Old 08-17-2016, 08:11 PM
 
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I don't blame you for not addressing my previous post, and going in a different direction. You have no reply.

No one believes young people shouldn't study or work hard. But only you seem to believe they should be slaves of their government -- which is sadly logical, given your collectivist world-view.
Well, if you have difficulties in seeing connections between statements: the young athletes in China do not have a much tougher time than other children. They stay in team China on their free will and no one kidnapped them. They can leave if they do not want to stay there, and a thousand other children (and their parents) want that position.
 
Old 08-17-2016, 08:25 PM
 
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So the contention is that Asian women look much younger than their Western counterparts? Odd thing though. I watched the Olympics and saw other Asian gymnasts and they didn't look anywhere near as young as the Chinese gymnasts.
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