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This is something I've been wanting to ask for a while. When a sports team loses a big game (i.e. championship game) or it's known for losing, does that make that city a loser? Why or why not?
The reason why I ask this is because I'm from Cleveland, born and raised. Before the Cavs won it all last year and broke the 52-year championship drought; it seemed that the city of Cleveland was maligned nationally. When the team lost, the city was looked at as loser and why do fans root for those teams.
Now, when the Cubs broke their drought last year (against my Indians) it seemed that the whole country was excited for the Cubs. Although, they have already won multiple titles in other sports. Same thing with the Red Sox when they broke their drought in '04, the whole country embraced them and their fans despite winning multiple titles in other sports. I feel that Cleveland didn't get that same embrace nationally when the Cavs won. I don't think the Indians will get that same embrace if they win the World Series this year because of the team logo and the city. It seems like everyone looked at those teams and cites as everyone's national treasure, and everyone looks at Cleveland as it's national punchline (i.e. Hastily Cleveland Tour YouTube video). Maybe I'm looking at the whole thing wrong.
This is something I've been wanting to ask for a while. When a sports team loses a big game (i.e. championship game) or it's known for losing, does that make that city a loser? Why or why not?
The reason why I ask this is because I'm from Cleveland, born and raised. Before the Cavs won it all last year and broke the 52-year championship drought; it seemed that the city of Cleveland was maligned nationally. When the team lost, the city was looked at as loser and why do fans root for those teams.
Now, when the Cubs broke their drought last year (against my Indians) it seemed that the whole country was excited for the Cubs. Although, they have already won multiple titles in other sports. Same thing with the Red Sox when they broke their drought in '04, the whole country embraced them and their fans despite winning multiple titles in other sports. I feel that Cleveland didn't get that same embrace nationally when the Cavs won. I don't think the Indians will get that same embrace if they win the World Series this year because of the team logo and the city. It seems like everyone looked at those teams and cites as everyone's national treasure, and everyone looks at Cleveland as it's national punchline (i.e. Hastily Cleveland Tour YouTube video). Maybe I'm looking at the whole thing wrong.
Not really, Its just that before the Cav's the last thing of note in Cleveland was a river lighting on fire and a perception of people fleeing an desolate industrial wasteland, then 40 years later people finally checked back when something in Cleveland was noteworthy.
If the Cavs hadn't won the RNC would have brought all the fresh attention to Cleveland.
Not really, Its just that before the Cav's the last thing of note in Cleveland was a river lighting on fire and a perception of people fleeing an desolate industrial wasteland, then 40 years later people finally checked back when something in Cleveland was noteworthy.
If the Cavs hadn't won the RNC would have brought all the fresh attention to Cleveland.
When a sports team loses a big game (i.e. championship game) or it's known for losing, does that make that city a loser?
No, of course not. Likewise a city that has a lot of teams with championships like NY or Detroit doesn't make that city a winner. Sports aren't that big or meaningful. Plus, actual players make up what, <.1% of the city & those players usually don't even live there in the off-season
Now, when the Cubs broke their drought last year (against my Indians) it seemed that the whole country was excited for the Cubs. Although, they have already won multiple titles in other sports. Same thing with the Red Sox when they broke their drought in '04, the whole country embraced them and their fans despite winning multiple titles in other sports. I feel that Cleveland didn't get that same embrace nationally when the Cavs won. I don't think the Indians will get that same embrace if they win the World Series this year because of the team logo and the city. It seems like everyone looked at those teams and cites as everyone's national treasure, and everyone looks at Cleveland as it's national punchline (i.e. Hastily Cleveland Tour YouTube video). Maybe I'm looking at the whole thing wrong.
I really don't think you can compare the Sox winning in 2004, or the Cubs in 2016 to other Championship wins, there are just so many factors that go into making those 2 very unique situations.
I honestly don't think most people care about other cities sports teams, especially people who aren't fans.
I really don't think you can compare the Sox winning in 2004, or the Cubs in 2016 to other Championship wins, there are just so many factors that go into making those 2 very unique situations.
I honestly don't think most people care about other cities sports teams, especially people who aren't fans.
The main factors were that they were national treasures to the sporting world, Cubs were "The Lovable Losers", Red Sox were "Curse of the Bambino." Meanwhile Cleveland was everybody's sports whipping boy, and the city was almost every stand-up and late night comic's whipping boy. C'mon ESPN did a "30 for 30" on Cleveland's sports misery last year ("Believeland"). If you're not from Cleveland, you wouldn't understand.
The Cleveland thing was mainly their sports being a symbol for the decline of the city itself. Now with Cleveland on the upswing with all its new building, its national spotlight in the RNC, and yes the Cavs championship, its reputation is improving.
Why would there be a connection? Most of the people in any city don't care/watch sports.
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