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Old 01-15-2018, 04:33 AM
 
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Big names gone on Day 1: Jack Sock , Venus Williams, Sloane Stephens, John Isner and Kevin Anderson.
Ferrer also gone, but he is on the decline.
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Old 01-15-2018, 05:48 AM
 
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Nadal won 61 61 61, next plays Leonardo Mayer, they met at the US Open last year Nadal won 67 63 61 64.
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Old 01-17-2018, 11:00 AM
 
Location: The Great West
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Nadal looked pretty good against Mayer, compared to how he usually is in the early rounds, so that gives me a bit of confidence

I haven't seen anything else other than Shapovalov lose to Tsonga (that one was kinda fun) and Fett choke to Wozniacki (yikes)
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Old 01-18-2018, 03:04 AM
 
Location: Sydney Australia
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It is 8pm in Melbourne and it is still 38C/100 F. Tomorrow is forecast to be 42. It will have to have an impact on the results.
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Old 01-18-2018, 09:03 AM
 
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Monfils won the first set and looked like he wanted to retire, he was telling the umpire that he can't continue playing if the time limit is 25 seconds between points.
Monfils is known for suffering physically more than most players, reputation for tanking sets.
Djokovic is in good shape, handled the conditions well.
Djokovic's serve was really bad in the 1st Set, but served slower after that and improved accuracy.
After 2 Rounds, here's how I rate the form of the contenders:
1. Nadal - way sharper than he was at the US Open and last year's AO
2. Djokovic - moving and playing the long rallies as good as anyone, other than Nadal
3. Federer - his groundstrokes lack the penetration of 2017ao, not good enough to beat Djokovic/Nadal, but serve is very good
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Old 01-18-2018, 01:26 PM
 
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Monfils won the first set and looked like he wanted to retire, he was telling the umpire that he can't continue playing if the time limit is 25 seconds between points.
Monfils is known for suffering physically more than most players, reputation for tanking sets.
Djokovic is in good shape, handled the conditions well.
Djokovic's serve was really bad in the 1st Set, but served slower after that and improved accuracy.
After 2 Rounds, here's how I rate the form of the contenders:
1. Nadal - way sharper than he was at the US Open and last year's AO
2. Djokovic - moving and playing the long rallies as good as anyone, other than Nadal
3. Federer - his groundstrokes lack the penetration of 2017ao, not good enough to beat Djokovic/Nadal, but serve is very good
I hate Monfils' antics. I was not able to watch the match, but I was surprised to see him even take a set. He has nothing to trouble Djokovic, and even when Djokovic is at 50% he usually wins in straights.

Your earlier comment about Djokovic's new serve being easier for Nadal has stuck in my mind. Obviously I hope that is the case, though I also hope we don't even have to see it since they can only meet in the final. Djokovic still has some landmines to get through, though it's hard to say there's a better tournament for him to make his first run in - the one he dominated for years.

What the heck was up with Wawrinka? I feel like he must have re-aggravated his injury or something.

Indeed it's going to be hot again. Nadal, Kyrgios and Tsonga get to escape that. I'm vaguely interested in Carreno Busta vs Muller, so I will see how they deal with the weather. Seppi vs Karlovic may be another five-setter, lol.

In the U.S. Open thread we had a poster who asked why none of us discuss women's tennis, so I guess I'll add that my fiance is pulling for Halep this tournament now that his fave Muguruza is out (yeah we have a tendency to support the Spaniards). I have no interest, other than rooting against Sharapova, so I guess I'll pull for Halep too.
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Old 01-18-2018, 01:52 PM
 
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I hate Monfils' antics. I was not able to watch the match, but I was surprised to see him even take a set. He has nothing to trouble Djokovic, and even when Djokovic is at 50% he usually wins in straights.

Your earlier comment about Djokovic's new serve being easier for Nadal has stuck in my mind. Obviously I hope that is the case, though I also hope we don't even have to see it since they can only meet in the final. Djokovic still has some landmines to get through, though it's hard to say there's a better tournament for him to make his first run in - the one he dominated for years.

What the heck was up with Wawrinka? I feel like he must have re-aggravated his injury or something.

Indeed it's going to be hot again. Nadal, Kyrgios and Tsonga get to escape that. I'm vaguely interested in Carreno Busta vs Muller, so I will see how they deal with the weather. Seppi vs Karlovic may be another five-setter, lol.

In the U.S. Open thread we had a poster who asked why none of us discuss women's tennis, so I guess I'll add that my fiance is pulling for Halep this tournament now that his fave Muguruza is out (yeah we have a tendency to support the Spaniards). I have no interest, other than rooting against Sharapova, so I guess I'll pull for Halep too.
I remember when Agassi played the AO he'd intentionally play long rallies in the 1st Set if it was a hot day to take his opponent's legs out before the 2nd Set. It didn't matter whether Agassi won the 1st Set or not, he'd be on the way to winning the match.
Not sure if Djokovic was thinking about that tactic, but that's what Monfils' lethargy reminded me of (even though I know Monfils is known for strange performances anyway).

Yeah women's tennis is too unpredictable for me, outside of Serena Williams.
Ostapenko for example can beat anyone on her day, but nobody has a clue what she is going to do on any day of the tournament (and from set to set), because her game is constantly 100% high risk.
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Old 01-18-2018, 02:37 PM
 
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I remember when Agassi played the AO he'd intentionally play long rallies in the 1st Set if it was a hot day to take his opponent's legs out before the 2nd Set. It didn't matter whether Agassi won the 1st Set or not, he'd be on the way to winning the match.
Not sure if Djokovic was thinking about that tactic, but that's what Monfils' lethargy reminded me of (even though I know Monfils is known for strange performances anyway).

Yeah women's tennis is too unpredictable for me, outside of Serena Williams.
Ostapenko for example can beat anyone on her day, but nobody has a clue what she is going to do on any day of the tournament (and from set to set), because her game is constantly 100% high risk.
Djokovic at 100% can out-physical anyone in the game aside from Nadal at 100%, so he could definitely use that strategy against players, but he has had a history of issues in the heat as well. From not knowing what happened, I can only assume Monfils started complaining as some kind of gamesmanship ploy that didn't work.

I don't mind the women being unpredictable so much as I just don't know much about any of them. I have followed the men's tour closely for almost 11 years now and the only women I ever truly supported, and went out of my way to watch, were Clijsters and Kuznetsova. I probably like Sloane Stephens the best right now and she already crashed out.

Another reason it's tough for me to appreciate the women's tour is because I have a specific type of player personality I like. I like the stoic athletes who don't show much emotion on court at all*. Partly it is because I have no respect for racket-smashing, but it also strikes me as more professional, I guess? I tend to gravitate toward that. There are not many cool cucumbers on the women's tour, aside from maybe Wozniacki. I used to like Halep until I learned how negative she can get.


*Yes, I am a big fan of Murray, who I have liked since forever, and I've never liked his negative self-talk he can get into. I always like him best when he is more tranquil.
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Old 01-18-2018, 03:01 PM
 
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Djokovic at 100% can out-physical anyone in the game aside from Nadal at 100%, so he could definitely use that strategy against players, but he has had a history of issues in the heat as well. From not knowing what happened, I can only assume Monfils started complaining as some kind of gamesmanship ploy that didn't work.

I don't mind the women being unpredictable so much as I just don't know much about any of them. I have followed the men's tour closely for almost 11 years now and the only women I ever truly supported, and went out of my way to watch, were Clijsters and Kuznetsova. I probably like Sloane Stephens the best right now and she already crashed out.

Another reason it's tough for me to appreciate the women's tour is because I have a specific type of player personality I like. I like the stoic athletes who don't show much emotion on court at all*. Partly it is because I have no respect for racket-smashing, but it also strikes me as more professional, I guess? I tend to gravitate toward that. There are not many cool cucumbers on the women's tour, aside from maybe Wozniacki. I used to like Halep until I learned how negative she can get.


*Yes, I am a big fan of Murray, who I have liked since forever, and I've never liked his negative self-talk he can get into. I always like him best when he is more tranquil.
Yeah Murray's physical decline is a huge loss for tennis because of Wimbledon having such a weak field now, not many top 50 players prefer grass over clay/hardcourt.
The only women's player I ever followed closely was Hingis.
On the men's tour I've supported Agassi, and Nadal.
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Old 01-18-2018, 04:17 PM
 
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Stanimal gone, I doubt he comes back to his slam winning form from here.
Criminal heat yesterday on court, had to feel for Monfils who was cramping in that.
Djoker looked ok, but do not think he can win this event with the serve the way it is, as well as not being fully match fit/rusty.
He is still adjusting to the new abbreviated motion, and it needs to improve a lot to go far here, let alone beat Fed or Nadal.
Yeah on the women's tour, have not followed it that closely since probably around the early 2000s.
No offense to Serena but her total domination made me lose some interest, (similar to Sampras in the mens in the 90s/ early 00s), and even now the unpredictability of top seeds losing early all the time makes it a lottery a lot of the time.
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