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Old 07-09-2018, 08:52 PM
 
Location: Greenbelt, MD
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Anyone in Raleigh/Durham NC area interested in going to the Travers and/or the Breeders (Churchill this year)?

I went to the Belmont - with 90,000 of my friends - and saw Justify win. I’ve been to the Travers and Breeders several times.

I’m also interested in the trotters. Anyone interested in going to the Hambletonian/Cane Pace?
Those days are over for me.

When I was younger I went to the Preakness every year, for free. One of my friends step father was a jockey agent for a famous jockey mostly on the Maryland circuit in the late 70s through the early 90s. IMO it's the worst day of the year to go for a day at the races.

I went to Saratoga once, on a Sunday. It was too much for me, very, very crowded. I also thought the place was a little overrated but I know I'm in the minority on that. I remember parking in the premier parking or whatever it's called and it seemed like I walked a mile to get there. That is no exaggeration either. I can only imagine where the regular parking is.

Want to take in a good race track fairly close to where you live? Next year make it a point to go to Colonial Downs, especially if you like turf racing.
After a 5 year hiatus they are cranking back up with their usual 45 day summer meet in 2019. They are getting slot machines and sadly I do not think they reopen without them. I say that because it's really not my thing. The track is located about 20 miles east of Richmond. I've been to 14 tracks and Colonial Downs is probably my favorite.

Although basically a minor league track, Charles Town in West Virginia ranks second. My issues with that track are many (like no turf course and too short of a stretch) but you can't beat the view nor can you get any closer to the action. I made the 125 mile trip (50 to get there from my job and 75 miles to get back home) on Saturday night but I had a real nice payday and a great time. Went on a whim. Horrible card that I should have looked at before I went with short fields and cheap horses. I've seen better there but I can't complain about the result.

I'll check back here to look for more of your posts. Let us know if you take those trips.
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Old 07-10-2018, 09:44 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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John, I’ve not been to Colonial Downs - I don’t go to minor league tracks. (I grew up in Buffalo, NY and I got hooked on horseracing when my father took me to Ft.Erie, a minor league track just over the Peace Bridge from Buffalo into Canada). I’ve been to Alberta, VA for OTB several times, but it’s closed now. (We can’t bet in NC so no OTB’s or even online betting).
I have my tickets for the Hambletonian/Cane Pace (Meadowlands, NJ), the Travers, and the Breeders (Churchill). I went to a Preakness 2-3 years ago - ain’t going back to that very old ugly track with TV’s that are minimally 20 years old. Saratoga is my fave track - Keeneland is my 2nd. Saratoga in July is to die for!
I don’t know why tracks can’t simply number the parking spaces - NOT rocket science
The closest major league tracks to Raleigh are in KY - too far to drive and no nonstop flights, so, to go to the Breeders, I need to take two flights the day before and take two flights the day after. Two days of racing means four days.
I happen to live 5 minutes from the Raleigh airport (RDU), so, I can fly to LaGuardia (one hour) and be in MidTown in two hours. I took the LIRR to Belmont - Penn Station to the track in 45 minutes nonstop.
Some guys/people play golf, some go fishing, I go to the track several times per year. Life is good!
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Old 07-10-2018, 06:34 PM
 
Location: Greenbelt, MD
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I never considered Colonial Downs a "minor league track." Charles Town, yes. But I love that little race track and have had some success there. Picturesque with a great view of the whole race.
Have to know when not to bet the race, or wheel the field in a Pick 3 or 4.

You are going to see some very high quality racing at Colonial in 2019. The slot machines will generate a lot of revenue that will be passed along in purse money. In the past 8 of 9 races are run on the turf. They have run some cheap turf races in the past but I look at the whole picture and overall they had good racing there

Do you consider PARX minor league? I don't. Please tell me you don't feel that way about Laurel which is a 15 minute drive for me. Maryland always had upper tier racing.

I've been pretty outspoken about Pimlico here. Yes, a dump located in a very bad neighborhood. In the past I have been there many times, back when they ran regular meets. Now it's only 2 weeks around Preakness time and the rest of the racing days are now at Laurel.

Any hope for NC to get off track betting? One of my best friends lives in your area, the one I spoke about in my last post. He semi-retired there from MD.
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Old 07-10-2018, 07:16 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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I only remember Colonial slightly - seems like they had one major race per year and the rest were all minor league - again, from what I remember...

I’ve not been to Laurel or PARX - those require flights. Laurel is major, of course. I only rarely see horses running at Saratoga, Aqueduct etc. who have also run at PARX.

NC won’t get OTB in my lifetime....closest OTB now is near Richmond - a 2 1/2 hour drive...

I don’t do casinos....at all. I’ve been to MGM in Vegas ~8 times for our annual 5-day conference (biz). We stay in the MGM and I never, not once, went to the casino - walked right by and had no interest.

I don’t bet the way you do. I virtually never play an exacta, a Pick 4 etc. or even the Daily Double. I only make win bets. I honestly, frankly don’t go to the track to try and make $money, and I don’t care if I win or lose! - I go to watch the races.

I forgot to mention - when we lived in Buffalo, we went to Woodbine in Toronto several times - 2 hour drive - for the Queens Plate, which is Canada’s Derby

Since I only get to go to the track a few times per year I go to the best races.

I may also go the harness racing Breeders at Pocono. Painful to get there - fly to Newark, drive two hours.

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Old 07-10-2018, 07:49 PM
 
Location: Greenbelt, MD
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My favorite bets are (not in order) across the board or win and place, Pick 3 and 4, and Daily Doubles. I like picking winners too! I only rarely play exactas and triples, and even rarer, superfectas.

I go to the track often, depending on what kind of streak I'm on, ha, ha. Mostly Laurel because I live so close. I love the live races but I hate to lose. I do go and try to pick spots and win. I can pass the race and watch.

I've never been to Belmont or Aqueduct. Frankly, I do not like NY. But upstate is different. Don't feel the same way about Saratoga as you do but as I said I know I'm in the minority. I went once and that may be it.

I also have zero interest in casinos. Charles Town has casino gambling and it is very popular, way more than the horse racing. If I get there early I walk through the casino to the food court, sit down at a semi-quiet table and read the Daily Racing Form. Then head back to the track for good.
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Old 07-10-2018, 08:00 PM
 
Location: Washington state
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(Im brand new to this site)

Anyone in Raleigh/Durham NC area interested in going to the Travers and/or the Breeders (Churchill this year)?

I went to the Belmont - with 90,000 of my friends - and saw Justify win. Ive been to the Travers and Breeders several times.

Im also interested in the trotters. Anyone interested in going to the Hambletonian/Cane Pace?
If I lived there instead of the other side of the country, I'd so volunteer to go with you. I've loved trotters ever since I saw Home In Indiana. There's no harness racing in the state of Washington, thanks to the turds who rule here.

So I am stuck with watching speed contests for show jumpers and this sort of thing on Youtube (click ahead a minute or so):



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmXaxSc9JsQ
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Old 07-10-2018, 09:18 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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John, since I always hafta fly to the track I go the day before, and go home the day after, I resign myself to the crowds and traffic jams since I’m not in a hurry to get home.

Belmont this year was with 90,000 of my friends, Travers will be w/50,000 friends.

This is off horse racing subject: I LOVE NYC!! We started going there 12 years ago when our daughter lived there. She’s since moved, but we still go 3-4 times per year - always for long weekends. We’ve been there 40-50 times in the past 12 years. I even thought of moving there a few years ago, but, I travel virtually weekly on biz and the thought of traveling in and outta LGA WEEKLY killed that idea.....just-sayin....

I’m hoping Justify runs in the Travers!

Probably the best race I saw in person was Zenyatta losing the 2010 Breeders by a nose. She was ridden by Mike Smith, who rides Justify. I remember M.Smith being interviewed by Jerry Bailey after the race. As you (obviously) know, Zenyatta always comes from way back. She was, as usually, 10 or more lengths behind at top of stretch. Smith blamed himself because “I made wrong decision at top of stretch as I was boxed in - cost me the race.”


http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XqFFnm6C9oY

It was the only race she lost. Zenyatta

This is why I go to the track!!!
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Old 07-10-2018, 09:20 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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My condolences rodentraiser for your geography...
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Old 07-11-2018, 01:46 PM
 
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Zenyatta always comes from way back. She was, as usually, 10 or more lengths behind at top of stretch. Smith blamed himself because I made wrong decision at top of stretch as I was boxed in - cost me the race.
It looks like justify may skip the Travers.
Saratoga nicknamed the Grave Yard of Champions.

Yes Zenyatta was a huge horse with massive strides.

I had a bundle on St. Trinians to place so it worked out ok.
The race caller tells all of it.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TYXGE1yemM
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Old 07-11-2018, 04:13 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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I would never ever bet a horse to Place when the fave is 1-2! I wouldn’t bet the 1-2 fave OR any other horse! JMHO

I sometimes bet “chalks” but only at 4-5 and above - JMS (Just My Strategy)!

Travers (Justify) is still 6 weeks out - we’ll see. Or, maybe he’ll be ready for the Breeders. Or, maybe he’ll retire to stud - nice gig if you can get it! ROFLOL

I’ve been to the last 3 Travers and also to 2007 (Street Sense). Probably 1 or 2 more - I just don’t remember. Travers card is always great - 5-6 Stakes races.

http://www.nyra.com/saratoga/racing/...ravers-stakes/
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