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Old 05-14-2018, 06:50 PM
 
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Who wins based on these 5 criteria:

1. Horses who ran and ran well in the Derby excel in the Preakness. Give extra credit to those who started and ran in the top half of the Derby field. Also give extra credit to those who had a rough trip.

2. All “new shooters” — horses that didn’t run in the Derby — must have raced within four weeks of the Preakness. Also, one should discount the win chances of a horse that has encountered no significant trouble in his last two races and had a 12-plus point swing in Brisnet speed figures.

3. For win contenders, horses must have earned a 106-plus in any of their pace/speed ratings in one of their final two preps.

4. Move up any horse that produced back-to-back top late pace figures as a must-use bottom of the Triefecta and Superfecta contender.

5. Discount horses aided by a Derby track bias.

https://www.horseracingnation.com/ne...eakness_Stakes
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Old 05-16-2018, 05:35 AM
 
Location: Greenbelt, MD
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The Preakness draw is today. Only 8 entries are expected. I can see many doing a Justify, Good Magic, and the rest which may make winning money on this race difficult. The exacta will pay about $3.80 if those two finish one and two.

I had hope for the undercard but since it's apparent all of the scheduled turf races will be moved to the dirt we are looking at even smaller fields due to the inevitable scratches. It has already rained a lot this week and we are expecting a lot more.Trainers who have good dirt horses in their barns should consider entering their horses in these races.
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Old 05-16-2018, 09:46 AM
 
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How to watch the Preakness Stakes post position draw
Date: Wednesday, May 16
Location: Pimlico Race Course, Baltimore
Time: 5 p.m. ET
TV: MSG+ (in specific areas, check listings)
Online Streaming: Pimlico official website, Preakness Stakes Facebook page

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Old 05-16-2018, 11:40 AM
 
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With an 8 horse field it's not going to matter...

Damn shame about those turf races that are very likely going to be switched to the dirt.
100% chance of rain Friday and 70% on Saturday.
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Old 05-16-2018, 12:30 PM
 
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With an 8 horse field it's not going to matter...

Damn shame about those turf races that are very likely going to be switched to the dirt.
100% chance of rain Friday and 70% on Saturday.
Sounds like a mudder.
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Old 05-16-2018, 07:13 PM
 
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Default THE 143rd RUNNING of the PREAKNESS STAKES

1. Quip - Florent Geroux 12-1

2. Lone Sailor - Irad Ortiz Jr. 15-1

3. Sporting Chance - Luis Contreras 30-1

4. Diamond King - Javier Castellano 30-1

5. Good Magic - Jose Ortiz 3-1

6. Tenfold - Ricardo Santana Jr. 20-1

7. Justify - Mike Smith 1-2

8. Bravazo - Luis Saez 20-1
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Old 05-16-2018, 11:27 PM
 
Location: Mayacama Mtns in CA
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1. Quip - Florent Geroux 12-1

2. Lone Sailor - Irad Ortiz Jr. 15-1

3. Sporting Chance - Luis Contreras 30-1

4. Diamond King - Javier Castellano 30-1

5. Good Magic - Jose Ortiz 3-1

6. Tenfold - Ricardo Santana Jr. 20-1

7. Justify - Mike Smith 1-2

8. Bravazo - Luis Saez 20-1
Sorry, a question from the newbie here.....I don't understand the odds on this one.
Thanks in advance!
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Old 05-17-2018, 12:35 AM
 
Location: Greenbelt, MD
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Sorry, a question from the newbie here.....I don't understand the odds on this one.
Thanks in advance!
At 1-2 a $2.00 win bet returns $3.00.
Justify is a heavy favorite to win. In fact he may end up at 2-5 which will return either $2.60 or $2.80 for a $2.00 bet, if he wins.

1-5 is $2.40 or $2.20,

If you ever see 1-9 the return on that would be $2.10.

Backing up - 1-1 is $4.00, 4-5 is either $3.80 or $3.60, 3-5 is either $3.40 or $3.20.

Those are payoff odds in Maryland which as you see is where I live. Other tracks can have $3.70 and $3.30 payoffs at 4-5 or 3-5.

I live very close to Laurel Park which is where I go to play the horses. Pimlico is not as nice as Laurel, not even close. I've seen their meet dwindle through the years, down to a 10 racing days meet during Preakness time now but many horses are stabled there and workouts are held daily.

Other tracks have $3.70 and $3.30 payoffs at 4-5 or 3-5.

However the 1-1, 1-2, and 1-9 payoffs I posted (and 3-2 which pays $5.00) are universal anywhere in North America.

Then there are 6-5, 7-5, 8-5, and 9-5 which pays between $4.20 - $5.80.

There are more too.

Hope I didn't confuse you too much.

I've been playing the horses for 33 years and have visited about 15 tracks.
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Old 05-17-2018, 12:44 AM
 
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Macrina,

I found this link which is a good guide and the formulator is explained:

Odds with $2 Minimum Payoff for Horse Racing - dummies

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Old 05-17-2018, 01:38 AM
 
Location: Greenbelt, MD
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Default Preakness moving in two years?

Whoa,

I just read this:

https://www.cbssports.com/general/ne...track-in-2020/

I predicted this would happen about 10 years ago but it's not official.

Pimlico is a dump, unworthy of an event such as this, and is located in a bad section of north Baltimore. If they move it to Laurel it will not surprise me.

I've been to the Preakness many times. Overall it's the worst day to go for a day at the races. The crowds are too much of a hassle so I kind of have mixed feelings on this as reality sets in. A friend of mine stepfather was a jockey agent and he was able to get a block of free tickets. He's deceased now, I was also younger back then and could tolerate it more than I can now.

Laurel is crowded on Preakness day but nowhere near what it's like at Pimlico. Admission is also free. All of that changes if this goes through.
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