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Old 01-17-2022, 11:42 AM
 
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Maybe English is your second language, but spectators must be vaccinated also, and even if athletes generally have a milder course, it wouldn't make sense to say that all the Australian people need to be vaccinated, but we give the athletes a pass.

With over 5 million dead worldwide, why do you need to invent a conspiracy as the explanation for why the scientific, medical and public health community urge vaccination?
im not going to argue with a Covidian here. as its not the place. but i will just say this: i dont subscribe to what you subscribe to nor will i ever choose to live in fear.
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Old 01-17-2022, 11:50 AM
 
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The alleged hotel conditions (that I read about) to which Djokovic was subjected sound horrific.
Isn't the hotel used for other detainees? Wouldn't that mean he is being treated fairly? Or do you feel he is owed special treatment because of his status and wealth?
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Old 01-17-2022, 11:57 AM
 
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This is ridiculous. My understanding is Australia is the only country in the world with rules like this. Not that it matters, but I will never visit Australia again, nor watch the Australian Open. He abided by the rules, was given clearance to enter the country by the Victorian government and should be allowed to play, period.
"The French Sports Ministry said on Monday there would be no exemption from a new vaccine pass law approved on Sunday, which requires people to have vaccination certificates to enter public places such as restaurants, cafes and cinemas.

"This will apply to everyone who is a spectator or a professional sportsperson. And this until further notice," the ministry said.

https://www.reuters.com/lifestyle/sp...ry-2022-01-17/

Looks like you will have to cross France and the French Open off your list too.
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Old 01-17-2022, 11:59 AM
 
Location: Newburyport, MA
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im not going to argue with a Covidian here. as its not the place. but i will just say this: i dont subscribe to what you subscribe to nor will i ever choose to live in fear.
Acknowledging reality and taking common-sense, science-based steps to reduce danger is not "living in fear". I'd call making up conspiracy theories to explain the world around you "living in fear".
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Old 01-17-2022, 12:02 PM
 
Location: Newburyport, MA
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"The French Sports Ministry said on Monday there would be no exemption from a new vaccine pass law approved on Sunday, which requires people to have vaccination certificates to enter public places such as restaurants, cafes and cinemas.

"This will apply to everyone who is a spectator or a professional sportsperson. And this until further notice," the ministry said.

https://www.reuters.com/lifestyle/sp...ry-2022-01-17/

Looks like you will have to cross France and the French Open off your list too.
And like in Australia, this requirement pertains to ALL who would attend or participate. I am sure this won't stop Djokovic from claiming that he's being persecuted because he's Serbian and he's being tortured by the French tennis authorities, when they're not trying to assassinate him.
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Old 01-17-2022, 12:05 PM
 
Location: Newburyport, MA
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"The tennis star has a track record when it comes to questionable scientific claims. In his book Serve to Win, Djokovic described how in 2010 he met with a nutritionist who asked him to hold a piece of bread in his left hand while he pressed down on his right arm. Djokovic claims he was much weaker while holding the bread, and cited this as evidence of gluten intolerance. And during an Instagram live, he claimed that positive thought could 'cleanse' polluted water, adding that 'scientists have proven that molecules in water react to our emotions'."
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-59897918

Why is it that people who are ignorant always reject mainstream science, but are wide-open to all manner of strange "theories" that defy even the most basic common sense?
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Old 01-17-2022, 01:06 PM
 
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"The French Sports Ministry said on Monday there would be no exemption from a new vaccine pass law approved on Sunday, which requires people to have vaccination certificates to enter public places such as restaurants, cafes and cinemas.

"This will apply to everyone who is a spectator or a professional sportsperson. And this until further notice," the ministry said.

https://www.reuters.com/lifestyle/sp...ry-2022-01-17/

Looks like you will have to cross France and the French Open off your list too.
I’m reading that French officials may reconsider the stipulations. They have several months to do so.
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Old 01-17-2022, 07:16 PM
 
Location: Juneau, AK + Puna, HI
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The Australian Open officials made it clear from the start that all players need to be vaccinated, regardless of the their nationality, religion or genetic background - wild claims about bigotry from the Djokovic camp notwithstanding. In fact, they are also requiring all spectators be vaccinated - no doubt, they don't want the tourney to be a super-spreader event..

Djokovic, whether due to political passions or misguided medical views, wants to be an anti-vax warrior and say that no one can make him get the vaccine. Fine, then he doesn't play in tournaments requiring it for entry. It should be very simple.
No they did not. If they HAD, all of this foolishness wouldn't have happened.

Although I'm a big proponent of vaccination for Covid, I feel Djokovic was wronged by Australia.

As Australia's top player Nick Kygrios said: "We're treating him as a weapon of mass destruction while literally he is here just to play tennis."

With the vast majority of the most vulnerable Australians vaccinated, yet thousands of new Covid cases occurring in Australia every day, the government position just seems silly to me. Mitigate Omicron? That's a joke.
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Old 01-17-2022, 07:33 PM
 
Location: Juneau, AK + Puna, HI
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"The French Sports Ministry said on Monday there would be no exemption from a new vaccine pass law approved on Sunday, which requires people to have vaccination certificates to enter public places such as restaurants, cafes and cinemas.

"This will apply to everyone who is a spectator or a professional sportsperson. And this until further notice," the ministry said.

https://www.reuters.com/lifestyle/sp...ry-2022-01-17/

Looks like you will have to cross France and the French Open off your list too.
That's quite a flip flop. Wasn't it last week they announced he'd be welcome at French Open, vaccinated or not?
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Old 01-17-2022, 07:41 PM
 
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No they did not. If they HAD, all of this foolishness wouldn't have happened.

Although I'm a big proponent of vaccination for Covid, I feel Djokovic was wronged by Australia.

As Australia's top player Nick Kygrios said: "We're treating him as a weapon of mass destruction while literally he is here just to play tennis."

With the vast majority of the most vulnerable Australians vaccinated, yet thousands of new Covid cases occurring in Australia every day, the government position just seems silly to me. Mitigate Omicron? That's a joke.
Well said..
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