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"what's your beef?" The wearing of NON collared shirts which IS a standard requirement at every golf course I have played and that is LOT, all over the world.
I currently live in "The Golf Capital of the World" and will NOT be allowed to play ANY of the 100 or so courses WITHOUT a collared shirt.
Look at his shirt. It has a collar. It isn't a standard Tee shirt. It is a shirt that past greats have worn over the years. Got a beef, take it up with your pro shop because you're not going to change the PGA tour or Augusta National no matter how red your face gets being angry.
2008 - Torn ACL
2010 - Neck injury
2011 - Sprained MCL, Achilles
2012 - Achilles
2014 - Back surgery
2015 - Back surgery
2017 - Back injury (spinal fusion)
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"The media has made him a God" IMO, it is because he is 1/4 black.
A pet peeve of mine is when Tiger won, I think in 1997, and some stupid interviewer made some remake about his being a person of color. Give me a break. Vijay Singh had won earlier, and he’s a lot blacker than Tiger. I’m so sick of people making race a factor.
A pet peeve of mine is when Tiger won, I think in 1997, and some stupid interviewer made some remake about his being a person of color. Give me a break. Vijay Singh had won earlier, and he’s a lot blacker than Tiger. I’m so sick of people making race a factor.
Vijay won after Tiger. In fact, Tiger was the first "non-white" winner and there has been only one other (Vijay) since.
And it was a factor considering it was only 7 years before (late 1990) that Augusta EVEN ADMITTED a Black member.
"Black golfing pioneer Charlie Sifford was famously snubbed from playing at Augusta, which was quite the omission as he was the first African-American to play on the PGA Tour.
The ban on African-Americans joining the club was finally lifted in 1991, well after Lee Elder broke Augusta’s race barrier by playing in the Masters in 1975. In 1983, the club finally permitted members to hire caddies who weren’t Black. Beforehand, most golfers hired nothing but Black caddies, which some allege was part of the members’ retaining a sense of control and power."
Race was always a factor at Augusta.
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"Black golfing pioneer Charlie Sifford was famously snubbed from playing at Augusta, which was quite the omission as he was the first African-American to play on the PGA Tour.
The ban on African-Americans joining the club was finally lifted in 1991, well after Lee Elder broke Augusta’s race barrier by playing in the Masters in 1975. In 1983, the club finally permitted members to hire caddies who weren’t Black. Beforehand, most golfers hired nothing but Black caddies, which some allege was part of the members’ retaining a sense of control and power."
Sifford won PGA events (2 I believe) but was snubbed and not invited to play at the Masters. Vijay might have won a PGA event before Tiger, but the poster's claim (by context - even Tiger had already won on the PGA Tour prior to the 1997 Masters) was that Vijay won the Masters before Tiger. He did not. There were several other Blacks who won PGA events... but could not play at the Masters because they were not permitted. That is the issue the sports caster that Gentlearts mention was discussing.
Please point out what is incorrect.
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2008 - Torn ACL
2010 - Neck injury
2011 - Sprained MCL, Achilles
2012 - Achilles
2014 - Back surgery
2015 - Back surgery
2017 - Back injury (spinal fusion)
Who recovers from that and does what he did?
It's all subjective - but Ben Hogan almost died in a head-on collision and won the U.S. Open 16 months later.
From the accident, he suffered:
Double-fracture of the pelvis
Fractured collarbone
Fractured left ankle
Chipped ribs
Near fatal blood clots.
Initial prognosis included him not being able to walk again.
Also - back then, the US Open played the final two rounds on Sat. So Hogan had to walk 36 holes on Sat. Which ended in a tie, requiring an 18 hole playoff on Sunday
The iconic picture of his follow through with a 1 iron was his approach shot on the 18th in the final round.
Hogan actually won the majority of his Majors AFTER this accident.
I don't think you can really compare the two and debate who's comeback was "better" or "harder". Both are pretty amazing. One fought through personal/social demons and physical injury, the other almost died from sustained injuries (at a time where medical science isn't what it is today).
Lots of speculation about Woods use of PEDs as well. Just look at how much of a twig he was back in his amateur days versus the 2000. He like doubled in size.
I hope he doesn't win another major - I'm glad he had his swan song, though. Hopefully last weekend was his equivalent of Nicklaus' 1986 Masters win.
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Sifford won PGA events (2 I believe) but was snubbed and not invited to play at the Masters. Vijay might have won a PGA event before Tiger, but the poster's claim (by context - even Tiger had already won on the PGA Tour prior to the 1997 Masters) was that Vijay won the Masters before Tiger. He did not. There were several other Blacks who won PGA events... but could not play at the Masters because they were not permitted. That is the issue the sports caster that Gentlearts mention was discussing.
It's all subjective - but Ben Hogan almost died in a head-on collision and won the U.S. Open 16 months later.
From the accident, he suffered:
Double-fracture of the pelvis
Fractured collarbone
Fractured left ankle
Chipped ribs
Near fatal blood clots.
Initial prognosis included him not being able to walk again.
Also - back then, the US Open played the final two rounds on Sat. So Hogan had to walk 36 holes on Sat. Which ended in a tie, requiring an 18 hole playoff on Sunday
The iconic picture of his follow through with a 1 iron was his approach shot on the 18th in the final round.
Hogan actually won the majority of his Majors AFTER this accident.
I don't think you can really compare the two and debate who's comeback was "better" or "harder". Both are pretty amazing. One fought through personal/social demons and physical injury, the other almost died from sustained injuries (at a time where medical science isn't what it is today).
I wasn't specifically comparing the two. I was too young to know about what Hogan went through. It sounds just as amazing.
I think what Tiger did have to deal with that Hogan didn't, is the pressure brought forth from social media and your business being put out there continuously.
Again - not slighting Hogan and what he accomplished.
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