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03-08-2008, 05:21 PM
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On the misty plateau
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Originally Posted by GetmeoutofAR
whats funny is most other cities on that lattitude line east of there are considered to be in the south
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Yes, the dividing line for climate is usually along the Ohio River further to the east.
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03-08-2008, 06:42 PM
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Yes, the dividing line for climate is usually along the Ohio River further to the east.
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oh ok, yeah i'd agree with you there, the way the fronts run and all
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03-08-2008, 09:57 PM
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demented & deranged optimist skeptic
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Springfield, to me, is more of a country-Southern, as in trucks and cowboys southern type. Not the South of cotton, fields, sweet tea, etc.
Yet, there are touches of midwestern mannerisms to it too, minor, but they are there.
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03-09-2008, 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by ShadowCaver
Springfield, to me, is more of a country-Southern, as in trucks and cowboys southern type. Not the South of cotton, fields, sweet tea, etc.
Yet, there are touches of midwestern mannerisms to it too, minor, but they are there.
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Yes, I agree with ya there.
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03-10-2008, 07:51 AM
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I will have to disagree with that. Springfield is in the Ozarks region with a lot of southern influences. Springfield has NOTHING in common with Midwest cities like Madison, Cedar Rapids, Minneapolis, Rochester, Grand Rapids, Des Moines, etc.
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NOTHING? Really??
Springfield seems to more closely resemble all of those upper-Midwest cities than it does with places like Mobile, Savannah or Birmingham. In fact, my next-door neighbors recently moved here from Louisianna. They can't believe how different life here in the Ozarks is, and they consider themselves very much of Southern influence.
It's been my experience that people experience less culture-shock coming from the places that you described than true Southern states.
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03-10-2008, 09:59 AM
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just look at the terrain around Springfield, theres nothing too terribly southern about it. Especially to the West around the Kickapoo and Sarcoxie prairies-very midwestern. As you get closer to Ozark-Branson it becomes more southern
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03-10-2008, 02:38 PM
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NOTHING? Really??
Springfield seems to more closely resemble all of those upper-Midwest cities than it does with places like Mobile, Savannah or Birmingham. In fact, my next-door neighbors recently moved here from Louisianna. They can't believe how different life here in the Ozarks is, and they consider themselves very much of Southern influence.
It's been my experience that people experience less culture-shock coming from the places that you described than true Southern states.
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Culturally, politically, and climate wise Springfield really does not have much in common with the Upper Midwest. The people in the Upper Midwest tend to be much more reserved, standoffish, and not quite as openly friendly as areas further to the south. I have lived in both areas. I would largely agree with your statement that Springfield does not have much in common with cities that are located in the Deep South, but I do not see that it has too many similarities at all with the Upper Midwest besides architecture and economics.
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03-10-2008, 02:42 PM
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On the misty plateau
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Originally Posted by GetmeoutofAR
just look at the terrain around Springfield, theres nothing too terribly southern about it. Especially to the West around the Kickapoo and Sarcoxie prairies-very midwestern. As you get closer to Ozark-Branson it becomes more southern
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Yes, the further west in MO you go the more "plains like" it becomes. I prefer to live in the more forested areas generally east of the Mississppi compared with the Plains. Trust me, it is not pleasant to live in the Great Plains every single day. I have lived in NW Kansas before and it felt like the Sahara Desert in the summer and Siberia in the winter!!!!!  
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03-10-2008, 04:02 PM
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Culturally, politically, and climate wise Springfield really does not have much in common with the Upper Midwest. The people in the Upper Midwest tend to be much more reserved, standoffish, and not quite as openly friendly as areas further to the south. I have lived in both areas. I would largely agree with your statement that Springfield does not have much in common with cities that are located in the Deep South, but I do not see that it has too many similarities at all with the Upper Midwest besides architecture and economics.
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Politically, Springfield is conservative like the majority of areas in the Midwest.
I will completely agree with your sentiments about Springfield being a pretty friendly area. I've always thought of Springfield as a large "small town" due to the culture in this area. I grew up north of St. Louis, in a small town that would definitely be considered rural Midwest. Part of the reason that I liked Springfield so much was that the culture was very close to what I was used to.
I haven't lived in the upper-Midwest, but I'm sure that you are right about them having a different feel since you've experienced those places. Did you get the chance to spend time in some of the more rural places up there? I'm curious to hear if the culture was similar to the larger metropolitan areas.
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03-10-2008, 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Plains10
Yes, the further west in MO you go the more "plains like" it becomes. I prefer to live in the more forested areas generally east of the Mississppi compared with the Plains. Trust me, it is not pleasant to live in the Great Plains every single day. I have lived in NW Kansas before and it felt like the Sahara Desert in the summer and Siberia in the winter!!!!!  
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Kansas is awful during the winter lol....... Ive never really thought of Springfield as being in the "plains" though. Nevada, Missouri is in the plains i think and maybe Joplin, but farther east than that no.
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