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02-08-2009, 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by GraniteStater
Most landowners engage in selective cutting. I should know since I live in the Applalachians. The conservation ethic is strong here and it maintains a vibrant and healthy forest. A few bad apples in the bunch give loggers a bad reputation. The most eggregious violations are taken up by the attorney general in my state and they must file the necessary documents to protect wetlands areas as well as past records for violations.
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I live next to State Forest.They had Loggers come in and Clear Cut a very large area.they left Tops just laying so thick there is no way you can walk into the area.Say anything to the State about it and they tell you they are creating New Forest.
hillman
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02-08-2009, 08:59 PM
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Location: Rolla, Phelps County, Ozarks, Missouri
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Originally Posted by Hillman
Oh as far as all the trees down there going away.Up here at Lake of the Ozarks they are blasting the bluffs off around the lake and building Condos fast as they can.
hillman
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Economic development, Hillman. Maybe it will result in more jobs for your area.
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02-09-2009, 02:48 AM
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Originally Posted by OA 5599
Loggers are allowed to clear-cut anywhere in the Deep Ozarks. There sure aren't any regulations on logging in the Ozarks outside of government-owned land...if you've got them, cut 'em down! You may ruffle the feathers of some green-minded individuals like myself, but the the law sure won't come knocking if you slice down every single tree on your own land. However smart timber harvesting is much more beneficial to the long-term health of the forest, the region, and the economic interests of the owners/loggers.
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People should have a right to use their land as they see fit. Haven't you heard loggers and tree farmers explain that trees are like any other crop? When it comes time to harvest, you cut them all down, just like a field of corn. I've heard professional foresters say clear cutting is smart harvesting. Back in the mid Eighties, a group of foresters gave me a tour of some clearcut areas, pointing out and explaining why that practice promotes overall forest health and more rapid regrowth of new trees than selective cutting.
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02-09-2009, 06:45 AM
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I was cutting firewood.My Daughter in Law sent my Son down to tell me not to be cutting trees.Well I had a few choice words for both them and they weren't nice.
hillman
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02-09-2009, 09:03 AM
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fall colors starting to show....
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: SW MO
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Have there been any reports lately on the water table levels around Branson? I had heard years ago that the massive amounts of water being used for hotels, restaurants and other tourism-driven ventures was dropping the water table to the point that it was necessary to drill MUCH deeper for new wells. I WILL be upset if they start damming my floating rivers to divert water to Branson! 
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02-09-2009, 09:10 AM
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On the misty plateau
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Location: Merrimack Valley, NH
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Originally Posted by ozarksboy
People should have a right to use their land as they see fit. Haven't you heard loggers and tree farmers explain that trees are like any other crop? When it comes time to harvest, you cut them all down, just like a field of corn. I've heard professional foresters say clear cutting is smart harvesting. Back in the mid Eighties, a group of foresters gave me a tour of some clearcut areas, pointing out and explaining why that practice promotes overall forest health and more rapid regrowth of new trees than selective cutting.
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I would say that is an inaccurate statement. When dealing with any kind of sloped surface you have MASSIVE runoff issues if an area is clearcut and few percautions are taken. Selective cutting is much better for overall forest health because it thins out portions of the forest allowing for faster tree growth. An area that is clearcut can not be logged again for another 50-70 years while a selectively cut forest can be logged again in 1/2 to 1/3 of the time compared to a clearcut area.
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02-09-2009, 09:12 AM
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On the misty plateau
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Originally Posted by Hillman
I live next to State Forest.They had Loggers come in and Clear Cut a very large area.they left Tops just laying so thick there is no way you can walk into the area.Say anything to the State about it and they tell you they are creating New Forest.
hillman
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I bet they are conservatives who don't really know what the word "conservation" even means. These loggers just liquidate their holdings by clearing everything and then move on to a new area.
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02-09-2009, 09:14 AM
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On the misty plateau
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Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Merrimack Valley, NH
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Originally Posted by Hillman
Me and my wife made a trip to Branson here couple years ago.She had never been.We camped at the State Park.Had Tickets for Shepard of the Hills,Sons of the Pioneers,and two days at Silver Dollar City.
Well we went to Shepard of the Hills and Sons of the Pioneers first day.Second day went to Silver Dollar City the second day.Wife said she didn't like the place and we wasn't going back the second day.So we got Tickets for the Branson Belle,now she enjoyed that.
Oh we got caught up in one of those Time Share Deals I wrote them out a Big Check.Slep on it over night,called my Bank and put a stop on the check and had to go back where we got it,got things lined out.Took up some time but we weren't out a bunch of money for something we really didn't want.
Oh as far as all the trees down there going away.Up here at Lake of the Ozarks they are blasting the bluffs off around the lake and building Condos fast as they can.
hillman
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The Lake of the Ozarks is a vastly overrated area. It is not even a real lake anyway  If you want a nice five star lake I would recommend the Brainerd Lakes area in MN around Gull Lake or the Vilas County WI area with thousands of freshwater lakes and some of the best fishing in the world.
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02-09-2009, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by GraniteStater
Most landowners engage in selective cutting. I should know since I live in the Applalachians. The conservation ethic is strong here and it maintains a vibrant and healthy forest. A few bad apples in the bunch give loggers a bad reputation. The most eggregious violations are taken up by the attorney general in my state and they must file the necessary documents to protect wetlands areas as well as past records for violations.
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How much land do you own?
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02-09-2009, 11:07 AM
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On the misty plateau
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Originally Posted by MoNative34
How much land do you own?
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I own a little less than 12 acres, but the majority of it is wooded. You have to remember that many people use wood as a supplemental heating source in the Appalachians. I hire a reputable logger to selectively cut some trees on my land occasionally if I need some firewood. My 1400sqft house is extremely well insulated and also has some passive solar capabilities. My other heat source is propane.
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