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Old 10-05-2009, 12:54 PM
 
Location: south Missouri
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The only place I ever had a problem with was Wal-Mart; as a college senior, I went to an on campus interview for WM Management and was told, in no uncertain terms, that they did not and would not hire a woman for any management position. That was in 1983 and was true at the time.

Since then, their policy has changed but that was one interview I walked out of, telling the guy, "In that case, I won't waste any more of my time - or yours."
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Old 10-05-2009, 02:06 PM
 
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Great thread idea.
I moved here two years ago. I haven't experienced any real inequality issues. One issue I have with Missouri is that it would be almost impossible to have a safe home birth. I don't have kids yet but if I did, I would be interested in having them at home. I think most hospitals are too filled with germs and not comfortable at all. I looked into it and to have a home birth with a doctor or nurse practitioner (if I recall correctly, midwivery is very strictly regulated but I could be wrong), you have to be within so many miles of the facility they practice at and the only one I could find in the state is in Columbia. Very disappointing.
Socially I have friends and we go camping, but it is mainly couples and their kids, no girl-specific activities. Most of the women I have met seem reluctant to do anything without their spouse/boyfriend and/or kids.
Hopefully there is someone lurking or posting on here with experience in home births who could help you with this dilemma.
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Old 10-05-2009, 02:20 PM
 
Location: south Missouri
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Great thread idea.
I moved here two years ago. I haven't experienced any real inequality issues. One issue I have with Missouri is that it would be almost impossible to have a safe home birth. I don't have kids yet but if I did, I would be interested in having them at home. I think most hospitals are too filled with germs and not comfortable at all. I looked into it and to have a home birth with a doctor or nurse practitioner (if I recall correctly, midwivery is very strictly regulated but I could be wrong), you have to be within so many miles of the facility they practice at and the only one I could find in the state is in Columbia. Very disappointing.
Socially I have friends and we go camping, but it is mainly couples and their kids, no girl-specific activities. Most of the women I have met seem reluctant to do anything without their spouse/boyfriend and/or kids.

I know several women who had their baby at home; most belonged to a very fundamental religious sect that isn't keen on doctors but another was a young couple who just wanted a home birth. The religious ones had a midwife who was state licensed but she was not affiliated with any hospital or facility.
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Old 10-05-2009, 02:21 PM
 
Location: Silver Springs, FL
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Hopefully there is someone lurking or posting on here with experience in home births who could help you with this dilemma.
This whole thing is ringing a dim bell, I think this has been covered in an old thread here, am gonna go dig a bit.......
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Old 10-05-2009, 02:21 PM
 
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I am a woman in her early 40's-married 20 years, no kids, lots of pets, lots of family close by, work in the medical field, lived in Missouri all my life (Eureka, then Carthage). I am treated as an equal at work, I am very spiritual but do not attend church. My husband respects me and values my opinions and we work together on many issues. Because we don't have kids, we have had the opportunity to travel more than most our age and love learning about other cultures. Most of my friends are either older (kids grown up) or younger (no kids yet) since the ones my age are busy with ballgames, dance class, etc. We usually do things together, but I am perfectly fine on my own. A good friend and I took a "girlfriend" trip to the bottom of the Grand Canyon on mules and had a great time without the guys. We sometimes travel with another couple-I like to fish but my hubby doesn't, so I fish with her hubby while mine shops with her.

Sounds like you are having a blast...too funny about the fishing/shopping spouse switch!


This area is very low cost of living, which translates to low wages. One of the biggest challenges is teenage pregnancy. This restricts many girls in terms of education, job choice and independence, and doesn't allow time to develop a sense of "self" which I think is important. I have been fortunate to come from a stable family life, which encouraged independence. The opportunities are there but I see too many women making poor life choices-quitting school, drugs, welfare as a lifestyle, undesirable men, etc. I really don't think these are "Missouri" problems as they occur nationwide. Are there a higher percentage of these problems in Missouri? I don't know...

I like your analytical thinking here. Teen pregnancy is a problem that is so common and has such far reaching consequences.
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I'm a lifelong Missouri resident and native; I've lived in the large cities, in very rural areas, in mid-size cities like Joplin, and currently in a small town. It has not been my personal experience that women are treated worse in MO than in any other state. I have never been passed over for a promotion because of my gender or experience any gender bias.
Glad to hear that you haven't been discriminated against. What kind of work do you do?

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I think it depends on which era you come from. I see the "old" ideas that a woman is the cook and housekeeper/child rearing but I see that mostly with the older generation (baby boomers and older). I am a transplant of 20 years and I really have not felt repressed or treated differently. My ex husband had the idea that women raised kids and went through childbirth with a smile on their face (what a moron). But honestly I think that was because he was an idiot and should not be a reflection on men as a whole.

I know why he's your EX...What a concept...childbirth with a smile, uh, please.


I think too, that smaller communities may see more repressed situations because an "old way" sticks around for generations longer than a larger "more modern" environment. The more outside influences that we have, the greater the chance that we will have more choices in how we want to live.
This rings so true in my experience, as well.

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Speaking for my wife she is a Jane of all trades,very hard working Farm Girl.One time she got hired to install Satellite T.V. Dish.She went to Springfield to stay down there few days for training.Couple nights later she calls me highly upset and crying.

I asked what was wrong.She said everything was going well when the Trainer called her into another room away from everyone.Told her a woman had no place doing this work and he would not have one working under him to pack her stuff up and get out.

She's lucky to have an understanding and compassionate man at home to make up for this unfair kind of thinking.

There was nothing she could do because he told her this in private.

But up until the last few years she had been making more than me.

hillman
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You know that brings up an interesting point...women in the military realling stirred up a stink. If they were nurses that was fine but not if they were next to them in battle.

The explanation given was....that women would be a distraction to the men. (u think?) Ok I get that point and also...most men (not all) feel they are to be protectors of women. I will be quite honest, I understand that line of reasoning and feel it is a very valid point.

As far as your wife Hillman...I think he was threatened that a woman could do his job as good or better than him. Some men can't bear the thought of looking bad in front of a woman. Or he was afraid she would get hurt and he'd be blamed for hiring a woman in the first place. It sounds more like the "old way" of thinking and can't stand the thought of a woman doin a mans work. Either way...he's a weenie
Total weenie!
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Old 10-05-2009, 02:22 PM
 
Location: south Missouri
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What kind of work do I do?

I originally worked in broadcasting straight out of college for a number of years; these days I am a freelance writer and I also substitute teach in the local school district.

I have had a few other jobs along the way but those are the main ones.
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Old 10-05-2009, 02:23 PM
 
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The only place I ever had a problem with was Wal-Mart; as a college senior, I went to an on campus interview for WM Management and was told, in no uncertain terms, that they did not and would not hire a woman for any management position. That was in 1983 and was true at the time.

Since then, their policy has changed but that was one interview I walked out of, telling the guy, "In that case, I won't waste any more of my time - or yours."

Good for you! Hope they have become more enlightened at Wal-Mart since then. They'd be passing up alot of highly qualified and talented women, if they haven't changed their ways.
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Old 10-05-2009, 02:28 PM
 
Location: Silver Springs, FL
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Cristina, here are a couple of old threads that might be able to give you info.......
Missouri Midwives??

looking for a midwife in columbia...help!
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Old 10-05-2009, 02:36 PM
 
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I got a laugh at neighbor down the road.Told him I got married by a woman Pastor the first time.He says Well there is your problem the reason it didn't take.A woman has no business being over a Church

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Old 10-05-2009, 02:48 PM
 
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What kind of work do I do?

I originally worked in broadcasting straight out of college for a number of years; these days I am a freelance writer and I also substitute teach in the local school district.

I have had a few other jobs along the way but those are the main ones.
Interesting professions. What kind of freelance writing do you do? Do you think that careers like teaching, nursing, etc. have more upward movement for women, than say construction, or more blue collar, or jobs that were typically done by men in the past?
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